leo
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Post by leo on May 24, 2006 11:49:28 GMT 8
I have been riding my road bike for three years now , and my brain is getting fried by reading too much magazines and seeing new frames when I am riding or at the races. Should I dispose of my aging Titanium Colnago frame (99 Oval Titan ) and buy a Taiwanese monocque carbon frame to replace it ? Or bite the bullet , buy the carbon frame and keep the titanium frame in storage until I save up for another build kit ? Carbon would be lighter , and I would get more damping but the Titanium frame is bombproof albeit a bit heavier , ride is smooth and has the old school charm of being italian . I want something new but I dont think it would be practical to have too many bikes in the house . Keep it or sell it ? Hmm , if I were hooked on drugs it might even be cheaper than being addicted to bikes
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Post by woofers on May 24, 2006 15:30:13 GMT 8
Put down the magazines, log off the forums and step away from the computer.
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 24, 2006 16:31:39 GMT 8
hear hear! Keep the Ti Colnago...btw who says its impractical to have too many bikes?
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Post by allegra on May 24, 2006 18:32:10 GMT 8
Ti!!!!
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Post by MrsM on May 24, 2006 18:50:04 GMT 8
I'll choose an Italian made Ti frame over a Taiwanese made carbon frame anytime! Besides, anyone with cash can buy those brand new frames, but elegant old school frames are hard to come by
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Post by janix on May 24, 2006 18:53:32 GMT 8
besides, it would be hard to sell your 59cm frame... if i remember right, 59 ba or something that tall. hehe hmmmm... bring that too to baguio! hehehe
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Post by Superbad on May 24, 2006 19:56:41 GMT 8
keep it! old school is cool.
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Post by king on May 24, 2006 21:16:44 GMT 8
darn, 59...
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Post by fattire on May 24, 2006 22:03:01 GMT 8
double darn...
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Post by allegra on May 25, 2006 8:54:33 GMT 8
hehe kasya sakin!! Kaso colnago isnt bagay to me
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leo
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Post by leo on May 25, 2006 10:09:10 GMT 8
Well nobody said go for the carbon . So its probably one less thing to want.
I'll probably keep it . Gave it some thought yesterday , twisted as it may seem you develop a relationship with the bike . The very nature of road is suffering on the bike , and who can hack it longer . ( maybe thats why mountain bikers are cooler people , less hung up than roadies)
Too many times I have died on that bike and come out stronger in the end .( part of the process I guess in becoming one with the bike )
The bike deserves to stay ! What was I thinking ?!
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Post by wcoastbo on May 26, 2006 23:30:50 GMT 8
carbon may be all the rage right now, but Ti is still sexier IMO. even better that it's a classic... and it's Italian. That's like trading in a classic Ferrari for a brand new Toyota.
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Post by wcoastbo on May 26, 2006 23:35:07 GMT 8
I know exactly what king and fattire were thinking until the size of the frame was revealed
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Post by sworksmike on May 26, 2006 23:39:58 GMT 8
Agree! Ti is like diamond when it comes to frame materials, keep the ti.
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 26, 2006 23:45:44 GMT 8
yeah it's Italian...just ask jr on how well they're made ;D ;D ;D carbon may be all the rage right now, but Ti is still sexier IMO. even better that it's a classic... and it's Italian. That's like trading in a classic Ferrari for a brand new Toyota.
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Post by jr on May 27, 2006 0:55:43 GMT 8
yeah it's Italian...just ask jr on how well they're made ;D ;D ;D carbon may be all the rage right now, but Ti is still sexier IMO. even better that it's a classic... and it's Italian. That's like trading in a classic Ferrari for a brand new Toyota. I'll go for Toyota less maintenance ;D ;D ;D.
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rt
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Post by rt on May 28, 2006 16:48:09 GMT 8
carbon may be all the rage right now, but Ti is still sexier IMO. even better that it's a classic... and it's Italian. That's like trading in a classic Ferrari for a brand new Toyota. Toyota's too good to be compared to a Taiwanese made frame. Make it a Hyundai. ;D
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Post by sleepydog on Jun 6, 2006 17:01:53 GMT 8
I'd keep that Colnago Ti frame. That's rare already what you have there. It's a collector's item already & you can still ride that. Have you seen lately the price of a new ti frame!?! Its enuf to put a big hole on your bank book or burn your credit card when you swipe it! I kept my Basso ti frame & got a Taiwanese Trek to get the feel of the modern road bike. Nothing still beats the feel of a good ti frame!
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Post by woofers on Jun 6, 2006 18:58:22 GMT 8
I kept my Basso ti frame & got a Taiwanese Trek to get the feel of the modern road bike. Nothing still beats the feel of a good ti frame! If your Trek is from Taiwan, it's not exactly an apple-to-apple comparison. Trek's mid- to high-end bikes are still made in Wisconsin. (Not that the Taiwanese Treks are bad --- my sole road bike is a Trek 1500, and the welds are better than any I've seen out of Taiwan)
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Post by groucho on Aug 2, 2006 18:53:23 GMT 8
Should I dispose of my aging Titanium Colnago frame (99 Oval Titan ) and buy a Taiwanese monocque carbon frame to replace it ? Or bite the bullet , buy the carbon frame and keep the titanium frame in storage until I save up for another build kit ? Titanium? Colnago? That's a no-brainer. Keep the old bike. If you get rid of it, I'm absolutely sure that one day you'll wake up and be sorry you disposed of it. Question: Is there such a thing as too many bikes?
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Post by wcoastbo on Aug 3, 2006 3:48:33 GMT 8
No such thing as too many bikes, but I did run out of room to store any more. I'm always looking to add to my collection if the price is right. Also, I'll always have a spare bike to lend a PinoyMTBiker member that's visiting my area.
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Post by amplifine on Jan 9, 2007 15:03:09 GMT 8
I was stuck with the same question a few days ago! ;D ;D Have a Basso Fixed gear (lugged w/colmbus tubing). My wife asked me to clean out the garage saying "Tapon mo na mga lumang basura mo!" Ha Ha Ha! This was a trophy bike (something to reward myself ) at the end of my messenger days when I lived in NYC. A few years ago the spokes tore off the hubs while I was trying to stop the bike. On a fixed gear you have to make small endos while spinning the tires backwards to stop. Guess I put on too much weight since those messenger days fourteen years ago!! ;D I acquired this bike in 1994 to mark the end of that era in my life.
On the same note about being old school: It's good to note that my faithful Kona Hei Hei Ti has kept its own since 1995 as well from what I thought was the end of my MTB era. Since then the bike has replaced forks (Manitou3 and Black Elite, 3 bottom brackets, 2 Sram shifters from the Xray to the old red and white tom the new XO's 9 spd. four chains, 2 cassettes and already on my 3rd cogset etc. etc.) Old School vs. new school? Ha Ha Ha! I guess they don't make them like they used to! Still riding the same old school frame!
Ti and steel still has the most life and greatest feel for me!
Keep the old and ride the new! But definitely don't throw them away! BTW: Just contracted this guy from Sabak makati to restore and detail my old Basso Track bike. More news to come...
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Post by fattire on Jan 9, 2007 17:35:03 GMT 8
wow! an ex-NYC bike messenger who owns a Basso Fixie and is also a PinoyMTBiker member! lightning striking something twice is more likely than amplifine's case. i invite you over to our singlespeed dept., post some pics (please, please show us some bike porn! even that Basso being restored). enjoy your stay here, hope to ride with you soon!
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jacklero
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Haha! Mine is longer!
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Post by jacklero on Jan 10, 2007 0:57:25 GMT 8
Another old schooler here just sharing my thoughts... for the threadstarter as well as those itching to upgrade courtesy of the interwebs and bike mags consider this, even an old frame could bring new life into your cycling.
Though my bike may not be a road bike the values remain the same. My dad bought my Cannondale M2000 way back 1993 second hand for what was then an already hefty sum of cash. I have riden it for about four years from the time of purchase until I went to college when my biking went on hiatus. During and even after college I have always had a compulsion to recycle (balik-bisikleta to borrow from the fireflies, hehehe) but I never really got around to moving my lazy butt to rebuilding my bike, last August my father passed away and for some reason I felt the sudden urge to go back to biking. So I went to quiapo shopped around for parts I could afford and got the bike back on its feet...errr wheels. After seing me ride a couple of times my girlfriend developed an interest for biking so I went again to quiapo bougth a frame and I cleaned my old XT parts and slapped them on.
Not long after upgraditis hit me and I decided to give my girlfriend's bike the full shebang! So I took out the old parts and synched them with my current set (we share the same Deore components for ease of maintenance). My old parts are now mounting onto a third bike bound for my girlfriend's dad. So I must say bawing-bawi na yung piyesa!
As for my old frame, I'm getting it from Boyet Bellardo tomorrow with a set of rear disc brake tabs so now I'm running a 1992 frame with the up to date componentry, not bad eh...
As for keeping multiple bikes, well if you have space the more the merrier I have three bikes at home (mine, mine and my girlfriend's) and I have had little problems (with storage) though sometimes my mom hints about the practicality of having more than one bike.
Some may ask why I went through all the trouble (and cost) to retain my old frame, I could only reason out sentiment but deep in my heart I have to agree with Leo that you tend to develop a relationship with the bike (far greater than an attachment) after all ilang semplang na ba ang pinangdaan nyo?
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