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Post by janix on Mar 16, 2006 21:24:46 GMT 8
im thinking of building a new bike. it's either an ss, road bike or a touring bike. my heart goes for road bike.
could you give me some ideas on the cheapest but still good parts.
i remember someone suggesting a K2 road frame (the cheapest sabi nila). that goes into my list. what else?
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Post by janix on Mar 17, 2006 20:53:43 GMT 8
how much for a sora groupset? how about tiagra? im only up to 9speed in roadbikes, di ko naman kakarereen e.
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Post by BrusKO on Mar 17, 2006 21:01:24 GMT 8
you particular about getting new parts? i believe fullspeed is selling his road bike. swak yun!
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Post by janix on Mar 17, 2006 21:20:48 GMT 8
im still saving, so i can't have the bike of fullspeed now.
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Post by trek4400 on Mar 17, 2006 21:33:26 GMT 8
brad in case you are interested, I'm selling my Colnago SL/Cromor Frame with Dura Ace Headset (Size 51 Center to Center) for P7500. Its a classic steel frame and you can't go wrong with it.
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Post by janix on Apr 24, 2006 11:09:04 GMT 8
what road bike could i get for 30k?
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Post by wcoastbo on Apr 24, 2006 13:37:26 GMT 8
when on a budget, i'm always in favor of buying a good second hand bike over a new bike. more value for the money.
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Post by mcsolomon on Apr 25, 2006 1:14:22 GMT 8
how much for a sora groupset? how about tiagra? im only up to 9speed in roadbikes, di ko naman kakarereen e. hi janix! in most LBSs in Metro Manila i inquired in more than a month ago, Shimano Sora (2x8 spd) goes for around P12K, while P17K for Tiagra group (2x9 spd) what road bike could i get for 30k? as usual, you can assemble your ride: get a Tiagra set (P17K) and invest in a brand-new K2 frame set (P3800) or GTS (P6000). other quality components will add up then to reach your budget ... or get a built bike, like the Giant OCR3, with price tag of P30K, with mixed entry-level quality components (Shimano, Truvativ, Tektro, etc). details are as follows: tinyurl.com/oyu7khappy hunting ;D regards,
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Post by janix on Apr 25, 2006 6:06:27 GMT 8
do you have a pic of the GTS road frame? never seen one yet.
how much is the cheapest Giant frameset? i'll probable add a combination of Tiagra and Sora. any ideas of a cheap but good quality wheelset setup?
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Post by mcsolomon on Apr 26, 2006 8:36:34 GMT 8
do you have a pic of the GTS road frame? never seen one yet. how much is the cheapest Giant frameset? i'll probable add a combination of Tiagra and Sora. any ideas of a cheap but good quality wheelset setup? AFAIK, GTS road frames are common and considered as "best-buy" by most road riders. it looks similar to other current Al road frames, though i can't find any GTS frames posted elsewhere in the Internet try to visit your LBS and i'm sure there are units displayed there the Giant OCR3 frame/fork set is tagged @ P20K, and (i think) that's the entry-level from their road lineup. hope that helps ;D
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Post by janix on Apr 26, 2006 11:24:33 GMT 8
thanks mer_solomon! do you know any frameset other than GTS but roughly on the same price range? 6k-7k?
i might be able to get a second hand 105 9spd... hopefully.
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Post by Allan on Apr 26, 2006 13:10:04 GMT 8
thanks mer_solomon! do you know any frameset other than GTS but roughly on the same price range? 6k-7k? i might be able to get a second hand 105 9spd... hopefully. try Mosso frame @ 7k..much lighter compared to GTS..i've read that they were manufactared in tha same plant in Taiwan as Felt bikes
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Post by grnhrnt on Apr 26, 2006 16:47:36 GMT 8
janix,
I have a friend whose selling his ocr for 35K negotiable yun! but you have to line up kasi raul (dirk77jumper) is negotiating yata. see my post in the whole bike section.
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Post by janix on Apr 26, 2006 16:56:00 GMT 8
sayang. if Raul is getting it, pihado sa kanya na yun. i'm still saving for the 30k. hopefully by december pa. tsk
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Post by woofers on Apr 26, 2006 18:33:18 GMT 8
I've got a pair of rims, Ultegra STIs (9-speed), and some other spare parts stashed away somewhere. Let me know if you want me to dig them up.
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Post by anthrax76 on Apr 27, 2006 15:28:51 GMT 8
hmm..there's a small shop in binondo, great..the name escapes me again but it's near the church. if you're from jones bridge, it's on your left side. if you reach binondo church you're already past it, go back about 3 or 4 doors. they offered me a built road bike a few years back. price tag is 26K, full Ultegra groupset with triple chainring. frame has no brand though
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 27, 2006 19:44:04 GMT 8
hehe, me too. i'm on the look out for cheap bike parts for a road bike. need to train some more and training doesn't start and end on a rough road even if you live and die on rough road like i do. i need something specific for road use.
so question is, would it be better to go 9-speed or the (new?) 10-speed groupset?
on frames, they say that you should have the right frame size. i find it miticulous when it comes to road frames. why is this so? in mountain bikes, there's S,M,L,XL. can i just look for a frame that says S? i'm 5'4"
choose between these 2 frames: giant OCR frame or a kristel frame which has a carbon top tube and carbon seat stay (considerably cheaper than a giant OCR frame, too)
what's the difference between road and MTB clipless pedals? i'm used to eggbeaters. can i just use that instead? any roadies using eggbeaters?
should i go triple or double chainring? why?
what's the cheapest, cost effective, light wheelsets for roadbikes?
thanks for all your future replies. i'm a super newbie to be in roadbikes by the way.
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Post by king on Apr 27, 2006 20:30:54 GMT 8
if you ask me, fit is important for both road & mtb. it's probably less noticeable on mtbs because of the more upright position. you also ride for shorter periods of time & shorter distances on mtb, and you move around, shift weight and get off more, whereas on a road bike you can be in the same position for a much longer period of time or distance. you'll probably fit on a small frame, then customize the fit using diffrent crank, stem & seatpost lengths and bar widths. if you're buying brand new, might as well get 10 speed, although frankly 9 speed and 8 speed is ok. i used 8 speed before going single. trouble is (same with mtb 8speed) you'll have a hard time finding replacement cassettes. on the frame choices i would go for the giant, but maybe more because they're backed a big brand and the local distributor. road pedals have a larger platform for better power transfer and to avoid "hotspots" where all the pressure is centered on a small area of your sole. i use my eggbeaters on both my road & mtb and i can feel it on the road bike. we pivot and swing our foot around more on mtb then road (depending on your pedal float). go with a double chainring. if you think that's too heavy get a compact crankset (50-34 instead of 53-39). the cheapest brandname wheelsets seem to be the shimano r550. i think that's the 105-level wheelset. they're less then P6k i think. i use the a-class 320, which cost a bit more (P8k) but are lighter and in my opinion better looking i hear the xero wheelsets are also relatively cheap. hehe, me too. i'm on the look out for cheap bike parts for a road bike. need to train some more and training doesn't start and end on a rough road even if you live and die on rough road like i do. i need something specific for road use. so question is, would it be better to go 9-speed or the (new?) 10-speed groupset? on frames, they say that you should have the right frame size. i find it miticulous when it comes to road frames. why is this so? in mountain bikes, there's S,M,L,XL. can i just look for a frame that says S? i'm 5'4" choose between these 2 frames: giant OCR frame or a kristel frame which has a carbon top tube and carbon seat stay (considerably cheaper than a giant OCR frame, too) what's the difference between road and MTB clipless pedals? i'm used to eggbeaters. can i just use that instead? any roadies using eggbeaters? should i go triple or double chainring? why? what's the cheapest, cost effective, light wheelsets for roadbikes? thanks for all your future replies. i'm a super newbie to be in roadbikes by the way.
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Post by woofers on Apr 27, 2006 20:43:50 GMT 8
go with a double chainring. if you think that's too heavy get a compact crankset (50-34 instead of 53-39). You may want a triple if your planned route includes lots of climbs. My routes are almost flat, so I can get away with the 53-42/12-23. The Xero wheelsets are cheap AND light. Unfortunately they're not as aero as other wheelsets out there, and AFAIK don't have double-butted or aero spokes. I think Christy's has the lowest price for these.
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Post by woofers on Apr 27, 2006 20:48:56 GMT 8
so question is, would it be better to go 9-speed or the (new?) 10-speed groupset? on frames, they say that you should have the right frame size. i find it miticulous when it comes to road frames. why is this so? in mountain bikes, there's S,M,L,XL. can i just look for a frame that says S? i'm 5'4" We're about the same size. Look for a size 48-50 in traditional geometry. I ride a 52cm Trek but they measure their frames differently.
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 27, 2006 20:51:36 GMT 8
thanks a million, king and woofers. lot of sensible answers from you. problem is, i'm not really familiar about sizing (frame, cockpit, crank). what's the best way? and even if i do know the right frame size, wouldn't it boil to getting either S,M,L,XL or do they have sizes like the "numbers" and then just adjust the cockpit? also, what's the right cockpit specs for my height? so getting double cranks is the best so i guess there are lots of options for crank sizes when it comes to road bikes, right? what are the available sizes? lastly, do you think i should hang out with roadies first or just buy accourding to my specs and gathered info? any roadie forum boards out there? thanks a quadrillion in advance.
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 27, 2006 20:55:54 GMT 8
so question is, would it be better to go 9-speed or the (new?) 10-speed groupset? on frames, they say that you should have the right frame size. i find it miticulous when it comes to road frames. why is this so? in mountain bikes, there's S,M,L,XL. can i just look for a frame that says S? i'm 5'4" We're about the same size. Look for a size 48-50 in traditional geometry. I ride a 52cm Trek but they measure their frames differently. . gosh, i really feel like an alien. the 52cm thing doesnt ring a bell. sorry for my ignorance. is there a site where i can learn these things in a jiffy? forums?
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Post by Superbad on Apr 27, 2006 21:14:00 GMT 8
more PinoyMTBiker people are planning to be roadies
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Post by mountguitars on Apr 27, 2006 21:16:43 GMT 8
more PinoyMTBiker people are planning to be roadies i think so, too. but i'm think its more for the glory of MTBiking.
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Post by king on Apr 27, 2006 21:52:45 GMT 8
to avoid trial & error, best to get fitted by toots chua. if you live down south, i think they're moving the bike fitting set-up to cycling zone for a while. aside from just height there are a lot of other factors- torso length, inseam, reach, etc. road cranks usually come in 170, 172.5 & 175 mm lengths although 172.5 is considered the "standard" in the same way that 175 is the standard for mtb cranks. i personally like 170mm myself (i use that on both my road & mtb). you might have a hard time finding 170 although some of the smaller built bikes might have cranks in that length. best forum is all around cycling forum, road & mtb, is PCN if i may say so myself ;D you can also try the PECA egroup, although that's a little more advanced (road racing). thanks a million, king and woofers. lot of sensible answers from you. problem is, i'm not really familiar about sizing (frame, cockpit, crank). what's the best way? and even if i do know the right frame size, wouldn't it boil to getting either S,M,L,XL or do they have sizes like the "numbers" and then just adjust the cockpit? also, what's the right cockpit specs for my height? so getting double cranks is the best so i guess there are lots of options for crank sizes when it comes to road bikes, right? what are the available sizes? lastly, do you think i should hang out with roadies first or just buy accourding to my specs and gathered info? any roadie forum boards out there? thanks a quadrillion in advance.
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Post by g.b.b on Apr 27, 2006 22:10:03 GMT 8
more PinoyMTBiker people are planning to be roadies i agree............ im one of them who enjoys road adventure. i just replaced my SS 2.0 tires to 1.25 and really feels like im using a roadbike. i can speed up to 30kph in about 10sec or less...
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Post by g.b.b on Apr 27, 2006 22:15:42 GMT 8
what road bike could i get for 30k? hey jan, you should get a frame that really fits your body geometry. every inch counts in road bike especially if your planning to join competitions.
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Post by janix on Apr 27, 2006 22:27:01 GMT 8
more PinoyMTBiker people are planning to be roadies im only buying a road bike because when i get back in Qatar, the place is terribly flat. literally no uphills!!! except the flyovers. i like racing, and there are no mtb races there....
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Post by woofers on Apr 28, 2006 9:34:45 GMT 8
gosh, i really feel like an alien. the 52cm thing doesnt ring a bell. sorry for my ignorance. is there a site where i can learn these things in a jiffy? forums? Roadbikereview and Bikeforums: forums.roadbikereview.com/www.bikeforums.net/Both forums have had LOTS of threads on proper bike fit, so do a seach. You can also go to sites with online fitting calculators like Competitivecyclist (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/).
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Post by janix on Apr 28, 2006 11:42:14 GMT 8
is there a Specialized Allez frame sold?
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