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Post by janix on Mar 2, 2006 7:43:25 GMT 8
I'm not givin up my mtb , it's like an old pair of Levi's Observation sa non-bikers - Women love roadbikes , when roadbikes are parked sa coffeeshop , they stop and stare nd even touch, or maybe they just like the bright colors. I've sometimes heard the word "sexy" mentioned Guys like mountain bikes , especially when it's got suspension and disc brakes. Wala katapusan kwentuhan hehe... maybe it's psychological, women like it sexy and men like it macho. hehehe is 27" same as 700c? i'm planning to rebuild my dad's old roadbike... pinoymtbiker.proboards7.com/index.cgi?board=bike&action=display&n=1&thread=2345i'm just planning to change the frame, rd and shifter... and the cassette and chain too. ;D
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Post by twitch on Mar 2, 2006 10:10:21 GMT 8
I'm not givin up my mtb , it's like an old pair of Levi's Observation sa non-bikers - Women love roadbikes , when roadbikes are parked sa coffeeshop , they stop and stare nd even touch, or maybe they just like the bright colors. I've sometimes heard the word "sexy" mentioned Guys like mountain bikes , especially when it's got suspension and disc brakes. Wala katapusan kwentuhan "sexy"? hehe! which is sexier, the bike or the biker who's wearing a lycra shorts with all those bulging...
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Post by mcsolomon on Mar 2, 2006 10:57:02 GMT 8
is 27" same as 700c? i'm planning to rebuild my dad's old roadbike... i'm just planning to change the frame, rd and shifter... and the cassette and chain too. ;D janix, well, that's the same question i asked in a LBS a few days ago... 700C (the current standard) is slightly smaller compared to the classic 27", but a little bit bigger than MTB's 26" (correct me if i'm wrong guys), so you might have issues with compatibility (i.e., caliper brakes and tires).
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Post by king on Mar 2, 2006 22:30:27 GMT 8
might as well get a new bike by the way, that wheelset probably has the old school screw-on type 5 or 6 speed cassette so you cant use it with a new cassette >"i'm just planning to change the frame, rd and shifter... and the cassette and chain too"
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Post by bbe13 on Mar 3, 2006 1:38:13 GMT 8
bros, please count me in on your planned trips, got an entry level road bike too and raring to ride it.
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Post by fattire on Mar 3, 2006 9:16:34 GMT 8
fullspeed - i'm free next week sunday, march 12
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Post by Lance_R_evo on Mar 3, 2006 11:20:52 GMT 8
is 27" same as 700c? i'm planning to rebuild my dad's old roadbike... i'm just planning to change the frame, rd and shifter... and the cassette and chain too. ;D janix, well, that's the same question i asked in a LBS a few days ago... 700C (the current standard) is slightly smaller compared to the classic 27", but a little bit bigger than MTB's 26" (correct me if i'm wrong guys), so you might have issues with compatibility (i.e., caliper brakes and tires). err... I still have 27" on my bike....as far as our initial comparison, the 700c are more in the range of 27.5-28", they're slightly bigger than the 27"..... the brakes would also confirm this as the 27" brakes are longer than those for 700c wheels... the upside to the 27" wheels is that you can put slightly fatter tires on it (mine's on 1.35s) which kinda give much more ride comfort of having slightly bigger tires or maybe it's just me....
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Post by mcsolomon on Mar 4, 2006 12:41:06 GMT 8
err... I still have 27" on my bike....as far as our initial comparison, the 700c are more in the range of 27.5-28", they're slightly bigger than the 27"..... the brakes would also confirm this as the 27" brakes are longer than those for 700c wheels... the upside to the 27" wheels is that you can put slightly fatter tires on it (mine's on 1.35s) which kinda give much more ride comfort of having slightly bigger tires or maybe it's just me.... hmm... 700c vs 27" just got interesting... "Some of you might think the difference in diameter between 26" and 700c is too small to matter. Actually, even though we all know 700c rim is slightly smaller than 27" rim, a 700c rim is a full 2-1/2 inches larger than 26" rim. Two-and-one-half inches?! How can difference between 26" and 27" exceed 2-1/2"?! Answer: a ridiculous tradition dictates that sizes of bicycle wheels --- unlike car and motorcycle wheels --- indicate the nominal outside diameter of the TIRE, and not the actual diameter of the rim. While the outside diameter of a traditional 26-inch "balloon" tire is about an inch smaller than the original 27-inch "racing" tire, the rim is nearly 3 inches smaller. The same tradition exists in Europe where there are no fewer than 4 diameters of rims that accept "650" tires (labeled 650-A through 650-D). To compare the "real" size of a rim or tire you must know the "bead seat diameter." Fortunately, this number is found molded into the sidewall of most tires. The real size of a 27" rim is 630mm (about 24.8"), a 700c rim has a bead seat diameter of 622mm, and the "26-inch" rim found on tandems and mountain bikes is only 559mm (a mere 22"). If matching width tires are installed, the outside diameter of a 622 (700c) tire is 63mm (2.5") larger than the outside diameter of a 559 (26") tire." -- excerpt from <http://www.gtgtandems.com/tech/700-26.html>
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Post by CyBoRG on Mar 5, 2006 19:37:42 GMT 8
Can I use 26"s vbrake on a 700c or 27" rim ?
What thickest tire size can use on 700c and 27" rim? ;D
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Post by sworksmike on Mar 5, 2006 22:44:53 GMT 8
Rode with fullspeed awhile ago at amari then to the fort, managed to squeeze in 34kms for such a short time. Road bikes are fast wheew! Just getting those base miles to kkep up with you guys.
bbe13- sir where you from?
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Post by bbe13 on Mar 8, 2006 11:05:16 GMT 8
Rode with fullspeed awhile ago at amari then to the fort, managed to squeeze in 34kms for such a short time. Road bikes are fast wheew! Just getting those base miles to kkep up with you guys. bbe13- sir where you from? sir, im from paranaque. I will be riding with a friend this saturday, a few laps around daang hari lang. anybody interested?
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Post by grnhrnt on Mar 8, 2006 15:08:25 GMT 8
hi bb13,
I normally do mtb rides on saturdays, road rides for training every tues & thurs. I usually bike w/ my friends up & down daang hari from 6-8 am.
I use a yellow Giant TCR w/ a white Trek helmet. So if you see me hook up.
Ramon
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Post by sworksmike on Mar 8, 2006 22:28:47 GMT 8
Mga sir may i know where daang hari is?
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Post by warlock^_^ on Mar 9, 2006 8:55:31 GMT 8
brad, Daang Hari is the new access road between Alabang MuntinLupa & Bacoor Cavite. From Alabang, this just follow the road along the side of Honda Cars Alabang....this road is perpedicular to Alabang-Zapote Road (Real St.). Follow this road which will lead you along the side of Ayala Alabang Village. this small road leads to a very wide 4-lane avenue..this is the daang hari. Mga sir may i know where daang hari is?
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Post by sworksmike on Mar 9, 2006 22:11:42 GMT 8
Ok thanks warlock! Does anyone know how long 1 lap is in amari where they usually hold the bente-bente races?
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Post by nightcrawler on Mar 24, 2006 15:23:43 GMT 8
I have an entery level road bike. MOB frame, 105 groupset, Taiwan rims,etc...I love trainning on my road bike. Masarap mabilis sa road. I usually train at Antipolo, sometimes circle and rarely sa UP oval (kaso nararampa ko yung mga humps...hehe kawawa roadbike ko). Right now haven't got much time with it (sunod sunod ang karera sa DH), except spinning at home.
I'm also planning to build a new one with highend parts. I don't know why but I really love training on a road bike rather than on an XC for DH racing...
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Post by xxamanxx on Mar 25, 2006 21:09:30 GMT 8
Rode with fullspeed awhile ago at amari then to the fort, managed to squeeze in 34kms for such a short time. Road bikes are fast wheew! Just getting those base miles to kkep up with you guys. bbe13- sir where you from? mahabang long road ride tayo!! Team, When is the long ride..? BTW, my current project right now was a road bike. A little similarity to JR's road bike but NOT actually the same. I was hoping I can finish this before holy week. I change my knob tire into 1.5 slick tire and right now i'm on training for my long holy week ride(Manila-Gapan,NE by maundy thursday and Gapan-Manila by good friday).
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Post by sworksmike on Mar 26, 2006 22:39:44 GMT 8
Maybe fulspeed and the rest could plan it out.
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Post by fattire on Mar 26, 2006 23:17:32 GMT 8
plan it out! plan it out!
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 26, 2006 23:21:06 GMT 8
I have to plan on what bike to get first with my tight budget ... then we plan the ride so I can join hehehe
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Post by allegra on Mar 27, 2006 21:51:06 GMT 8
I have to plan on what bike to get first with my tight budget ... then we plan the ride so I can join hehehe OCR frame, 105 comp , shimano wheelset your gtg fafa
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 27, 2006 23:31:06 GMT 8
I have to plan on what bike to get first with my tight budget ... then we plan the ride so I can join hehehe OCR frame, 105 comp , shimano wheelset your gtg fafa Tighter than that idol... 105 group, shimano cheapest wheelset model #500 yata, then gts frame with fork (metallic light blue) around P40k complete w/o shoes Feel free to comment or suggest mga bossing ..
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Post by jr on Mar 27, 2006 23:50:15 GMT 8
OCR frame, 105 comp , shimano wheelset your gtg fafa Tighter than that idol... 105 group, shimano cheapest wheelset model #500 yata, then gts frame with fork (metallic light blue) around P40k complete w/o shoes Feel free to comment or suggest mga bossing .. brad...How about carbon frame (54 cm) with Ultegra groupset and crossmax ssl rims.. hardly use. Contact Jr.
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Post by allegra on Mar 28, 2006 15:22:56 GMT 8
OCR frame, 105 comp , shimano wheelset your gtg fafa Tighter than that idol... 105 group, shimano cheapest wheelset model #500 yata, then gts frame with fork (metallic light blue) around P40k complete w/o shoes Feel free to comment or suggest mga bossing .. [/quote 40k is enough!
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 28, 2006 15:57:24 GMT 8
OCR frame, 105 comp , shimano wheelset your gtg fafa Tighter than that idol... 105 group, shimano cheapest wheelset model #500 yata, then gts frame with fork (metallic light blue) around P40k complete w/o shoes Feel free to comment or suggest mga bossing .. [/quote 40k is enough! Yup - enough for a gts frame nga lang.. ocr frame and fork is around 20k bnew diba?, khs flite around 18k carbon fork and seatstays... upgrade na lang later on guys - Any reviews on the 105 10 spd grupo? really looks nice.. specially the crankset
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xxamanxx
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Post by xxamanxx on Mar 28, 2006 23:25:22 GMT 8
Tighter than that idol... 105 group, shimano cheapest wheelset model #500 yata, then gts frame with fork (metallic light blue) around P40k complete w/o shoes Feel free to comment or suggest mga bossing .. [/quote 40k is enough! Yup - enough for a gts frame nga lang.. ocr frame and fork is around 20k bnew diba?, khs flite around 18k carbon fork and seatstays... upgrade na lang later on guys - Any reviews on the 105 10 spd grupo? really looks nice.. specially the crankset Fullspeed, I have a friend selling his road bike (GTS frame, tiagra, sora parts and shimano wheelset) for only 12K. I will post the pix if the bike still available. About the 105 10speed, that's the same gruppo i consider for my road bike project. For me, thats perfect choice for the 3 10speeds (dura ace, ultegra and 105)
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Post by fullspeed on Mar 29, 2006 10:58:43 GMT 8
Aman - thanks sir but I have my eyes set on the 105 10spd grupo, due to staring everyday on the shimano website how's your roadie project going? let's all ride when our bikes are built Sworksmike - adik!
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Post by woofers on Mar 29, 2006 11:47:58 GMT 8
From what I've read on the roadbike forums, lots of people still prefer the 9-speed stuff. I have no plans of upgrading, especially since it's still easy to get 9-sp parts here.
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Post by fattire on Mar 29, 2006 12:32:17 GMT 8
just to add to woofers post:
Uncle Al: Geared to the 9s o^o o^o o^o o^o o^o o^o I'm a compatibility freak. I spend way too much of my time trying to figure out what works with what. My latest quest has been to determine how much (or if any) of Shimano's new 10-speed stuff can interface with its great 9s stuff. What a mess. Shimano created some of the greatest drivetrain compatibility of all time with its 9s system. You can mix and match nearly all 9s road or ATB parts to get whatever gearing you want. Like a road triple crank with 30/39/53 rings mated to an 11-34 cassette and XT rear derailleur with so you could climb Everest and speed down the Chinese side, bullets a-flyin'. But 10s has virtually shut the door on custom gearing while providing very limited choices to boot. Now, what about the new Shimano Compact crank (FC-R700)? Compacts do give lower gearing for fit cyclists with legs of steel. But that 34x27-tooth bottom gear isn't low enough for weenie-legged recreational riders (like myself) with a Walter Mitty Complex. There's a reason I ride in the valley and not out of it. Will Shimano's compact crank work with 9s stuff? The bad news is it's a dedicated 10s crank and the only way you're gonna use it on your 9s is to replace the chain and front derailleur with 10s. The derailleur is fine but I think Shimano's 10s chains would be better used for necklaces. I destroyed two of the $50 ones installing them with the correct chain tool. It wasn't the first time I'd installed chains during 40 years of wrenching, it just felt like it. Broken or twisted 10s chains are not uncommon from poor shifts or simply generating too many watts. A couple other issues to think about when considering 10s stuff: ---The 10s STI brake/shift levers are 2-cm longer on the hoods than the 9s. If you ride on the hoods a lot be sure to factor that in to your bike fit. Credit for this insight goes to fit guru Richard Schwinn of Waterford Precision Cycles. You'll have to shorten your stem if you're happy with your current position, or get a frame with a shorter top tube. Whatever it takes; 2 cm is dramatic. ---Don't buy a Shimano 10s-dedicated wheel if you run a 9s system. The hub won't accept a 9s cassette. Fortunately, most other aftermarket wheels are 8-9-10s compatible. Bottom line: Don't assume that going to 10s is the next nirvana. Ask yourself if you really need it. Trying to mix and match 10s with 9s could drive you to drink. If you go there, be absolutely sure you're getting compatibility advice from someone who really knows their stuff. This sounds too much like the GM business model of planned obsolescence. What were they thinking?
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Post by Ben Dover on Mar 29, 2006 12:42:06 GMT 8
you call that addition?! looks like multiplication to me..hehehe! very informative mr. fattire.
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