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Post by fattire on Feb 13, 2005 22:35:02 GMT 8
i'm a roadie newbie, wahoo! bought me a 2nd hand, 5 yr old steel roadie size 53, 7 speed, last friday night. she's a custom, by a guy who lives in tikling, taytay shimano 105's: brake levers, shifters, brakes, hubs shimano 600 ultegra: f/r derailleur dura ace cranks look pedals mavic open 4cd rims cinelli stem and bar campy seatpost selle italia turbo Php 7,500.00, this got posted on ebay for 10K. i'll prolly paint her pink, will use her for the commute, and will ride me to that bugarin, caliraya, whatever. i'll start runnin' in circles to gain handling and whatever, down there in amari, the fort whatever. as you can judge for yourself, i'm a noob at this and any of your help will be greatly appreciated, links to online roadie info, etc. did i say i got it for Php 7,500.00? i still can't believe it. first ride from fort bonifacio to welcome rotunda, 15kms, no problems, smooth as silk, and shifts like a dream. dasaint: hope you can spot me sometime in the future, for pointers to correct roadie riding, i know i learned mtb'ing that way! what's "roadflower" in french? i'll put it on the top tube, thanks!
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Post by woofers on Feb 14, 2005 14:22:44 GMT 8
Fattire, Congrats on your new ride! Nothing wrong with 7-speed, specially since they're quality parts and you got it for a steal!
You can get started by riding at the Fort oval. There are cyclists there as early as 6AM every day, but if you're still getting the feel of your bike it's probably safest to wait until the more aggressive riders leave (around 8AM) or stick to the outer lane. Same for amari -- wait until around 8.
Oh, and "road flower" would be "fleur de route" en francais.
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Post by bernie on Feb 14, 2005 15:20:04 GMT 8
On a road bike, 7 speed is no big deal, OK lang yan, lakas ng padyak at malaking cranks ang pinupunto ng racer.
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Post by dasaint on Feb 15, 2005 9:39:53 GMT 8
;D wow roadie ka na talaga. It's a good bike to start.. We can ride road one of this days. The positon is the 1st thing you have to get use to and learning how to pedal to get the cadence .We can practice paceline before joining the group in Amari and Fort Just txt me or U2U me.
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Post by bernie on Feb 15, 2005 16:01:39 GMT 8
I still have a racer (roadie Triathlon type, aside from my Rigid MTB ) ) still using it if Im feeling on the road. Saka nakakalakas, good training for MTB climbs
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Post by fattire on Feb 15, 2005 22:36:41 GMT 8
bernie, woofers, dasaint,
thanks for the tips!
sobra enjoy ko riding the roadie!
paceline? don't know that but it sure sounds cool.
i hope to get more tips, again, thanks!
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Post by woofers on Feb 16, 2005 0:50:51 GMT 8
If anyone wants a good workout, I'm training at the Fort oval on Tuesdays/Wednesdays starting around 630 and up to 830.
Tara na!
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Post by fattire on Feb 16, 2005 13:07:22 GMT 8
woofers:
will try next tues. i'm hungry for pointers!!!
i suffered my 1st pinch flat, i'm ridin' 20C Conti-Ultra, i want to consider using a 25C if it's locally available (i'm such a noob at this i can't believe it!). any inputs, please?
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Post by bernie on Feb 16, 2005 13:11:51 GMT 8
Yan lang talaga ang dis advantage ng hi-pressure tires of roadies, prone palagi sa flat.
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Post by woofers on Feb 16, 2005 14:48:36 GMT 8
woofers: will try next tues. i'm hungry for pointers!!! Game! Text me on Monday to remind me to look for you. What pressure did you have in your tires? You shouldn't get pinch flats unless your pressure is too low, or you hit a pothole REALLY hard. Most roadies pump up to around 100psi if they're using clinchers , or up to 150+psi if they have tubulars. I can get away with 90psi but then I'm lighter than most people. You can find tires in 20, 23, and 25 easily. 28 is a bit tougher to find. 23 is the optimal and provides the least rolling resistance, all other things being equal.
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Post by fattire on Feb 16, 2005 20:57:38 GMT 8
woofs:
i had it to 90psi, was to weenie to bring it to 100psi with a hand pump.
next time in the LBS i'll bring it to 100psi. i'm 150 lbs (even lesser, i'm sure of it).
went to elixir and paulina's today, there's this locally made sidi knock-off that felt so comfy when i tried it. LOOK and SPD compatible. build-quality was very good except for the prints. price P950.00. i am tempted to get a pair, any reason i shouldn't?
clinchers and tubulars: google! help!!!!
thanks for the tips!
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Post by lucban on Feb 17, 2005 11:02:23 GMT 8
Welcome to bike world!! I do both mtb and road bike but i prefer road biking.If youre going to do a lot of road biking in the Phil., protect your skin and your lungs.Avoid polluted road and use proper skin protection or do biking earlyin the morning/late in the afternoon.Ride lots.
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Post by woofers on Feb 17, 2005 15:28:28 GMT 8
went to elixir and paulina's today, there's this locally made sidi knock-off that felt so comfy when i tried it. LOOK and SPD compatible. build-quality was very good except for the prints. price P950.00. i am tempted to get a pair, any reason i shouldn't? If they fit and are compatible with your pedals, go for it. It may or may not last a season but at P950, who cares? If you already have clipless MTB shoes and pedals, you can use those too. The main performance difference between the high-end road shoes and knock-offs is in the sole. You want your soles as stiff as possible to transmit power to the pedals. The real SIDIs have hard plastic or carbon soles for stiffness.
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Post by dasaint on Feb 17, 2005 19:47:07 GMT 8
woofs: i had it to 90psi, was to weenie to bring it to 100psi with a hand pump. next time in the LBS i'll bring it to 100psi. i'm 150 lbs (even lesser, i'm sure of it). went to elixir and paulina's today, there's this locally made sidi knock-off that felt so comfy when i tried it. LOOK and SPD compatible. build-quality was very good except for the prints. price P950.00. i am tempted to get a pair, any reason i shouldn't? clinchers and tubulars: google! help!!!! thanks for the tips! 100 psi is still a bit low 110 psi would be perfect .invest in a quality floor pump. Tubular will give you a smooth ride and no pinch flats. But very expensive as the hi end ones tend to be hand sewn. Hard to maintain as you have to glue the tubulars to the rim. fine if you have a pro mechanic . The pro almost execlusively ride tubulars. clincher are fine as long as you get good ones. The local shoes sole are made of wood mango if I remember right. my friend got one before but the sole tend to seperate from the shoe because naka glue lang siya. Get the quality shoes . You may use your mountain bike shoes for casual ride but during race you will be in an extreme disadavantage. Woofers is right you need to transfer your power to the pedal effciently . Road shoes are not meant for walk you will have a hard time walking but then again you will feel the diffrence when you pedal. hope this helps
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Post by woofers on Feb 18, 2005 0:11:54 GMT 8
100 psi is still a bit low 110 psi would be perfect invest in a quality floor pump. I recommended 90psi. Why? Read www.roadbikerider.com/UArant.htm Basically you have to find a balance between comfort, rolling resistance, handling, and tire life. A lower pressure seems to do it for me, and I've got over 4000km on my Michelin Pro Race tires. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by polpan on Feb 18, 2005 8:49:32 GMT 8
fattire, congrats sa bago mo ride.... drop kaagad or parampahin mo na yan.... pag napunta ka sa fort..... wag ka sanang makisigaw ng "BIKE, BIKE...TABI, TABI, TABI...TABI SABI!!!!...." e di iba rin ang helmet mo pag yan ang gamit mo....
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Post by dasaint on Feb 18, 2005 11:01:46 GMT 8
I recommended 90psi. Why? Read www.roadbikerider.com/UArant.htm Basically you have to find a balance between comfort, rolling resistance, handling, and tire life. A lower pressure seems to do it for me, and I've got over 4000km on my Michelin Pro Race tires. Your mileage may vary. For me 105 talaga ako sanay
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Post by lucban on Feb 21, 2005 12:16:46 GMT 8
In road biking,invest more on your wheels/wheelset and your engine(endurance/skills)goodluck!
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Post by fattire on Feb 21, 2005 22:57:20 GMT 8
polpan: last Saturday I was in full roadie uniform - tawag namin dun yagbaks! i did my first out of town run to jala jala, rizal. umalis ako sa amin ng 6:00 am nakarating ako ng 2:00 pm sa bahay, was with some Marikina roadies on a training run, they went further to Mabitac, Laguna. ibang klase brad, gigil na gigil sila pag pa ahon, iwan ako! some things i learned: 1. kids will ask you to jump when you're in an MTB, on a roadie: "walang kamay naman dyan!" 2. you can pop a decimal-high bunny hop on a roadie, not for show, but with real benefit - jarring effect of pavement crack! kelangan lang tama rin yung body english para sabay ang bagsak nung dalawang gulong at walang kaldag just this morning, i changed to a 23C - what a difference! less jarring, bearable "lubak", mas marami puede sagasaan! a pair of maxxis xenith for 500 pesos, got it from cycle art, last pair, sorry. dehins pala pinch flat yung problem ko guys! the old rim tape lost elasticity, the end of the spoke punctured the tube, kaya na-flat, nagpalit na rin ako. i'm between 90 to 100 psi i'm still very wary about the speed, nakakatakot! some riders will say they graduated from mtb to road and i'm neither here or there about that, but i know a few guys who switched to mtb bec of roadie horror stories - terrible crashes. but before you think this is a bail-out, i'm eagerly awaiting my next trip south - sta rosa. hintayin ko lang maayos ni louie pasaway yung roadie nya. hey gary, time to tune-up that roadie of yours! pahabol: i was told i was running "old school" on 42T inner ring, palitan ko raw ng 39. meron na ko nakita sa cycle art na 105 39T chainring, php650 yata, any comments?
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 6, 2005 17:22:04 GMT 8
Hi roadies ;D I just bought my first ever road bike today from Idol Mcvarki! (see B&S) Well... almost lang since kulang ng chain, headset, tubes and rear derailleur Once I get her up and running, sama ako sa rides nyo ha BTW, Anyone selling a 2nd hand 8 speed rd? Any tips on what and where to buy and how much? The FD accdg to McV is shimano 105
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Post by woofers on Jul 6, 2005 18:37:10 GMT 8
Hi roadies ;D I just bought my first ever road bike today from Idol Mcvarki! (see B&S) Well... almost lang since kulang ng chain, headset, tubes and rear derailleur Once I get her up and running, sama ako sa rides nyo ha BTW, Anyone selling a 2nd hand 8 speed rd? Any tips on what and where to buy and how much? The FD accdg to McV is shimano 105 brad, I think I may have a spare Shimano 600/Ultegra rear derailleur. It was in very good condition when I upgraded. Let me look for it and the 8-speed chain that should go with it.
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 6, 2005 18:44:57 GMT 8
Hi Brian! Tnx brad I'll keep my fingers crossed Makati pa din office mo?
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Post by woofers on Jul 6, 2005 19:16:31 GMT 8
Yup. Actually I worked in Ortigas for a couple of months but I'm back in Makati.
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Post by fattire on Jul 6, 2005 20:15:43 GMT 8
hi fullspeed: congratulations on the purchase, i hope you get to like road riding, like i do. the feel is rather different, i find it erroneous to compare roadie to mtb riding, apples to oranges as i would put them, you can't have just one good luck with the build, i hope you get the rig up and running in no time!
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Post by feraskulio on Jul 6, 2005 20:37:06 GMT 8
Owen, I think you have to give up your baggies to cycling shorts...Bakat yagbols...Hehehe...
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Post by jr on Jul 6, 2005 21:39:11 GMT 8
Hi roadies ;D I just bought my first ever road bike today from Idol Mcvarki! (see B&S) Well... almost lang since kulang ng chain, headset, tubes and rear derailleur Once I get her up and running, sama ako sa rides nyo ha BTW, Anyone selling a 2nd hand 8 speed rd? Any tips on what and where to buy and how much? The FD accdg to McV is shimano 105 Fullspeed..welcome to the club brad.. I'm the same after more than 10 years off road riding, just started again. As guys mentioned its totally different.
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 6, 2005 22:46:32 GMT 8
Fattire and JR - thanks for the pointers and the warm welcome
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 11, 2005 10:51:49 GMT 8
GUys my roadbike is up and running ;D Took her for a spin and found out it was harder to ride than I thought... at least compared to mtb, but faster But I made some adjustments on the saddle, seatpost and handlebar so maybe I'll test drive her out again tonight Noticed that the biggest sprocket is around middle size of an mtb sprocket - is this standard for 8 speed? or do they make them bigger now? I have only 2 chainrings and I couldnt climb up our basement parking like I do with my mtb! hehe Share ko lang ang specs: Frame - Generic alloy compact frame with kinesis alloy fork Brakes Shifters and hubs - Shimano RSX (STI) Fd, brakes and headset - Shimano 105 Rd - Shimano 2200 Rims - Araya Tires - IRC Saddle - Bontrager Pedals - generic platform Cranks - Shimano 600 Stem - Amoeba BTW, 100 psi tire pressure?? I dont think I can do that with my handpump Where do you guys do your regular rides? Pwede sumabit? Woofers - do you still go to the fort oval regularly? FATTIRE - tara idol ikot tayo! Cheers!
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Post by woofers on Jul 11, 2005 14:18:53 GMT 8
Noticed that the biggest sprocket is around middle size of an mtb sprocket - is this standard for 8 speed? or do they make them bigger now? I have only 2 chainrings and I couldnt climb up our basement parking like I do with my mtb! hehe Count the teeth on your biggest cog...your cassette may be more suited to road racers and time trialers than newbie roadies. If you have a 25 or 27 biggest cog, that should be OK. If you have a 23 or 21 biggest cog, consider getting a replacement until your legs get stronger. Get some clipless pedals so you can spin! Even MTB SPDs will do. Road bike pumps are different from MTB pumps. They're skinnier, so it takes less force (but more strokes) to get to 100psi. I'm temporarily sidelined due to work, but I hope to start training at the Fort again next week.
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Post by fullspeed on Jul 11, 2005 16:04:24 GMT 8
Woofers - thanks brad! I'll check out the cogset later when I get home.. and I'll follow your advise and get me spd's ASAP
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