when hitting corners it is generally recommended to have a low seatpost to lower the CG and to apply more tire pressure... however, there are cases wherein one has no dropper post and does not have the luxury of stopping and dropping the saddle down. all videos i've seen online and written tutorials suggest dropping, but then there are cases where one doesn't or cannot.
given that scenario, how can one ride through berms without having to lower the saddle? by berms, i'm referring to downhill switchbacks, are more often bermed and rutted in the middle.
Never had a chance to really rail a berm but I do have a high saddle setup. If it's a downhill section, I'm pretty much butt-on-rear-wheel position. It's a little scary on turns (again no berms where I'm riding) but you'll get used to the feeling. I have no problem leaning on the inner side of the turn though.
medyo mahirap yan especially if you want good speed on berms. i can't imagine myself doing it without lowering the seatpost. Medyo mahirap i-maintain ang balance and control. Going lower keeps everything stable. Even more stable kung i-bend pa ung knee hehehe. But imagine yourself bending your knee towards the turn with high seatpost, hahaha good luck!
I'm also interested to know how to ride the berms without having to lower the saddle
Well I'm no expert but personally what I've tried when I had no dropper post was the following. Approaching the berm, Instead of dropping the outside foot, I keep pedals level (I can't go at much of an angle anyway). Then I try to take the front wheel outside of the berm as much as possible, then as I exit the turn I try to pump the front wheel as I transition from the berm to the rut. I actually fell once overshooting the berm. It was one of the things that convinced me I needed a dropper. I see xc racers being able to lean the bike with their super high seat posts so I guess that's a skill that can be learned. But XC courses are getting gnarlier so some are actually taking the weight penalty and using dropper posts.
ayan sige green zone, i've been there once i would say the one in front of me was fast and i didn't want to get left behind so i followed suit.
rode it with attack position, a lot of body english and pumping, ha ha ha.
but yeah, level pedals, a lot of leaning while turning, and weight at the back to get through. just to give you guys an idea, if i'm sitting on the saddle and the bike is stationary, both my feet will be on tiptoes. that's how high my saddle is.
level pedals... i'd say that's one of my errors as i always fall for the textbook cornering of outside foot down. even on very well crafted berms i tend to fall for this position hence switching the foot which is cumbersome at times.
anthrax76 you must have a very open and flexible hip joint to be able to do that much body english with a seatpost that high or maybe i'm just not used to it.
how high my saddle is? sitting with full weight on the saddle and my sole over the axle, my legs are perfectly straight. this leaves me a slight bend when pedaling at midfoot position, ie the ball of my foot is in front of the axle.
Last Edit: Jan 18, 2017 17:41:06 GMT 8 by spyghost
yeah..i don't really know, he he. probably i'm just used to the saddle always high so i kinda adapted my movements based on it. it's probably the same reason i can't bunnyhop high for fear that my saddle would hit my spine.
anyway, our saddle height with reference to our leg length is pretty much the same. when i get strong enough, let's ride the green zone sometime and compare. there's no berms in UP so can't really play there.
OT: if there were no berms, just a flat out switchback, you could try front wheel pivot. scary when you're fast, well it's not recommended if you're fast anyway.
i have to say i sessioned green trail this morning and while i'm still working on body position, i'm happy to say that i've managed to perform most of the dh switchbacks (except for one which always gets be my surprise, also worth mentioning it's the steepest and tightest). it seems that yea i got a pretty tight hip/thigh area which needs a little 'getting used to it feel' when on full seapost extension. nevertheless, if i prep'd myself well ie looking ahead and not yet wasted, i can drop my seatpost just low enough to give me room to move and switch back done.
todo - looking forward (d@mn this bad habit is hard to cut) - letting go of the brakes or yet slightly releasing - not dropping seatpost (ironic for a dropper user)
anthrax76, yea let's do a ride sometime. i'm pretty sure i can learn a lot from you.
when ur at XC setup you should know how to apply the high hinge, and that is the only way you can rip that berm on a high saddle. go search it brad.😀
yep, fully aware of the high hinge. thing is, the saddle still gets in the way - could be my fatty thighs lol. btw, as for the saddle width i'm already using the narrowest i can find and i am comfortable with - 128mm.