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Post by warlock^_^ on May 9, 2006 0:48:01 GMT 8
Garmin's new Edge 305 GPS cycle computer won our 'Coolest Gadget' prize at Interbike 2005 and now we have one of our own to play with. The Edge 305 uses Global Positioning System satellites to calculate a nearly endless array of features, including current, average, and maximum speed, trip and total distance, current position, elevation, heading, grade… you get the picture. An optional wireless speed and cadence sensor makes for even more accurate readings, and a wireless heart rate monitor adds in the usual HRM functionality. Data stored in the Edge unit itself can also be uploaded to Garmin's MotionBased web site, which not only overlays your route on a variety of satellite and topological maps, but also provides a remarkably detailed data analysis of your ride. MSRP: US$349.99 (with either speed/cadence sensor or heart rate monitor), US$399.99 (with both speed/cadence sensor and heart rate monitor)   |
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Post by tnt on May 9, 2006 12:06:06 GMT 8
This is a great unit to aid one's training regimen. It seems like the Forerunner with much more features. However, could you clarify whether this is a mapping device or not?
I was looking in to this unit but ended up with Garmin's Etrex Vista as I read from one forum that the 305 is not a mapping unit. Meaning, the unit itself does not have a base map that will show you exactly where you are in the map so you can follow your trail or "bread crumbs" or track back if you get lost.
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 9, 2006 12:17:08 GMT 8
Yes, the edge has navigational features... by just switching mode to Map, it says there in the product specs. To see more, check the owner's manual at their website. |
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Post by Dragunov on May 9, 2006 15:50:57 GMT 8
wow! i wish i had one of those! its just a bit expensive for me  i think that with that gadget, you will have a lot of confidence tackling unknown trails, do you guys know of a similar product that is cheaper? |
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Post by marcs on May 9, 2006 15:59:33 GMT 8
just bring freeman along. human gps yan |
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Post by bongjumper on May 17, 2006 19:05:37 GMT 8
Which is better, Edge or Forerunner  |
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Post by mountainmark on May 18, 2006 15:13:13 GMT 8
I ask the Price of Edge 305 its around 20k+ Forerunner is almost the same as the Edge maybe sone additive features but I rather go to Foretrex same designed as forerunner the only good thing is that it a H2o proof and you can also use it for hiking and cycling.
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Post by Superbad on May 18, 2006 17:22:51 GMT 8
get an etrex and the handlebar mount |
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 24, 2006 21:02:39 GMT 8
Which is better, Edge or Forerunner You decide... Garmin Forerunner 3012005 Outside Magazine's Gear of the Year  Five Fab Features: Leave it to the GPS pros at Garmin to thoroughly idiot-proof heart-rate training: The company's new Forerunner 301—our pick for Gear of the Year—is a no-brainer digital coach. It's ideal for runners, trekkers, cyclists, paddlers, and anyone else who wants to collect satellite-enhanced workout data in the field and crunch the numbers later. 1. After charging up the Forerunner, I fastened it to my wrist, donned the heart-rate strap, walked outside, and—while the device searched for GPS satellites—programmed in my height, weight, age, and sex. Total setup time: five minutes. On subsequent runs, the 301 found a bird in a mere 30 seconds. 2. Like all high-end heart-rate monitors, the 301 doubles as a watch, altimeter, speedometer, and odometer. But count your blessings, real-time-feedback junkies, because while most screens let you see only three types of data at once, the Forerunner's displays four. Your heart rate pops up in the top-right corner. 3. Program a target pace or speed into the Virtual Partner screen and "race" against yourself. It's an ideal feature for goal-oriented training, such as running a sub-three-hour marathon. Every second, the 301 tells you exactly how far you are behind—or ahead of—yourself. 4. This navigation company didn't forget its roots. The Forerunner is a legit waterproof GPS that will direct you back to the trailhead, turn by turn, should you become deliriously lost on an all-day speed hike. Just try to do so before its ten-hour rechargeable battery expires. 5. The included USB cable syncs the Forerunner with a PC and unleashes the Training Center software, which graphs your heart's workload. I ran it with Garmin MapSource ($117, sold separately) to reveal my bike route on a street map, then clicked on the corresponding heart-rate graph to see the exact point where I almost reached cardiac arrest. |
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Post by extraFunky on May 25, 2006 10:27:27 GMT 8
I'm using the Forerunner 301. It's pretty much similar to Edge 305HR. The major difference besides physical form is the updated, more sensitive GPS receiver on the Edge 305. Price of 301 is about half that of the 305. I got mine for $150. On the trail, the GPS has very little use IMHO because the screen is so small and it's got no base map. It's more for tracking rather than routing or navigation. I guess the "Back to Start" feature would come in handy if you're lost. I'm using SportTracks with my 301 which is way lot better than Garmin's Training Center. |
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Post by pjax on May 28, 2006 17:15:40 GMT 8
i still don't know how the GPS is essential in a thing that measures your speed, distance travelled etc. i mean, why is GPS better than the usual cyclocomputers where we stick sensors on the wheels?
i don't think the GPS is utilized enough in this device. based on the picture, i don't think it has mapping features or anything.
i mean, why is this better than the polar watch with cyclometer and optional pedometer?
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Post by Ben Dover on May 28, 2006 17:55:52 GMT 8
i believe gps system has still problem working properly if the trail is covered by trees or under forest canopy...if this system works or measures your speed etc based on gps signal that could be a problem...otherwise its an amazing piece of equipment.
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 28, 2006 18:01:20 GMT 8
I guess you havent used an ordinary GPS unit yet. Use the Google, Wiki how the GPS unit function, coz it will be a lengthy explanation. By the way...YOU look only at the picture, and never read the manual and its complete features. I pasted the link already, go and read. i still don't know how the GPS is essential in a thing that measures your speed, distance travelled etc. i mean, why is GPS better than the usual cyclocomputers where we stick sensors on the wheels? i don't think the GPS is utilized enough in this device. based on the picture, i don't think it has mapping features or anything. i mean, why is this better than the polar watch with cyclometer and optional pedometer? |
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Post by bongjumper on May 28, 2006 23:01:15 GMT 8
How about the forerunner 305 Do you think this is much better since it's like a wristhwatch...   |
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 29, 2006 12:18:13 GMT 8
Dunno about you bong...seems by the look of the watch this is overkill. kinda look its more at home with a G-suit and a F22 raptor in place of the bike ;D How about the forerunner 305 Do you think this is much better since it's like a wristhwatch... |
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Post by pjax on May 29, 2006 13:43:29 GMT 8
i've used GPS before, as a navigation system for a car. i know a little bit about how it works. but you got me there, i didn't read the manual but really. all i'm saying is that if all it does is tell current, average, and maximum speed, trip and total distance, current position, elevation, heading, grade, why use GPS? a the typical cyclometers we are used to will do the trick. but yeah, a quick look at the features shown in the website show that it has some features that ONLY a GPS sensor could do, like get lap times everytime you pass a specific location, and the "race mode", where you race on a preprogrammed track. yeah, i gotta admit, these are GPS specific but nah i don't need those features don't hurt me |
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 29, 2006 14:05:47 GMT 8
don't hurt me Dapa! i'll spank you hehe Seriously brad, there's an article in MBA June(?) issue about such techy demands of riders. A lot of those who were using are not even athletes. I forgot the conclusion of the article since it kinda affected me abit hehehe. Anyway I suggest you read it, might shed light on some question which I guess would be more apt now addressed to sports psychologists. |
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Post by bongjumper on May 29, 2006 21:08:14 GMT 8
The advantage of GPS is when you're goin to discover a new trail.... Just download all the trail information to the GPS. No more problem in finding the right direction... the GPS will assist you... Also, other bikers can just send to you the GPS information if you want to try the trail they ride before... Input it in the GPS... and you will find it... Nice ha??? This is the pictures of GPS in the cockpit... awesome to see since it's big. but very useful...  |
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Post by pjax on May 30, 2006 18:41:29 GMT 8
oh i see. gps with navigation. but i don't think navigation is in the garmin edge 305. but a portable GPS navigation on a bike, that's hightech!! i could buy a portable one for a car, then take it out when i'm mountainbiking just to impress bystanders @warlock, i'm putting anti-spank material in my shorts. do you have the URL of the article? btw, are there GPS maps for the philippines? |
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Post by extraFunky on Jun 1, 2006 2:21:07 GMT 8
but really. all i'm saying is that if all it does is tell current, average, and maximum speed, trip and total distance, current position, elevation, heading, grade, why use GPS? a the typical cyclometers we are used to will do the trick. unlike cyclocomputers, you don't have to calibrate the gps-based computers. altimeters can be a pain to calibrate to get it to work accurately. if you only need to know how fast you're going or how far you've gone, stick with cyclometers. for training, you need a way to easily record your workout and have the software analyze and display your data in graphs and charts. that's where the forerunner and edge come in handy. |
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Post by pjax on Jun 1, 2006 15:47:11 GMT 8
can't argue with that. gps still too expensive
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Post by bongjumper on Jun 3, 2006 10:51:00 GMT 8
Agree... Good things always have a high cost... like your bike... ;D ;D ;D Anyway, thanks to everyone who share their views about this state of the art GPS... In your own evaluation you need it... then buy one, for sure you will not use it not only for biking, but also when you travel to other country... |
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Post by Superbad on Jun 5, 2006 7:36:42 GMT 8
i took out my cyclocomputer in my mountain bike. from now on i'll be using my gps unit.
i've realized the value of setting way points the last time we biked in bulacan. without it, we wouldn't have found our way back to the parking lot.
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Post by pjax on Jun 6, 2006 11:46:10 GMT 8
Superbadare you using the garmin edge 305 or are you using a different gps unit, the one with maps and the like, with voice navigation ekek
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Post by Superbad on Jun 6, 2006 12:01:38 GMT 8
Superbadare you using the garmin edge 305 or are you using a different gps unit, the one with maps and the like, with voice navigation ekek i use an etrex with a bicycle mount. i need to get in touch with bud. he told me that he has a map of all the trails in the philippines and he would upload it into my unit. i had second thoughts about getting the bicycle mount at first, but i'm glad i did. i no longer need a cyclocomputer. the only downside is that it sucks up AA's really fast. Good thing i have a lot or rechargeables. |
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Post by pjax on Jun 8, 2006 17:56:34 GMT 8
and you can use that etrex for your car right?
there are gps maps of trails in the philippines? that's great! although i don't think there are detailed maps of the REST of the philippines, so you really can't use GPS navigation effectively in philippine streets (to get to a friend's house which you haven't been there before).
or is there?
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Post by Superbad on Jun 8, 2006 21:19:53 GMT 8
and you can use that etrex for your car right? there are gps maps of trails in the philippines? that's great! although i don't think there are detailed maps of the REST of the philippines, so you really can't use GPS navigation effectively in philippine streets (to get to a friend's house which you haven't been there before). or is there? i haven't really used it for the car. bud has all the trail maps in his etrex. he'll give me the maps one of these days. i also have the wordmap software from garmin. its practically useless. the detailed road maps are only applicable in the u.s. and europe. you can use it to get to a certain place if you have the coordinates with you though |
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Post by mountguitars on Jun 23, 2006 21:50:05 GMT 8
if it only had mapping and navigation, this would be the best tool for everything in between. wish they could add some basic mapping and navigation stuff for those who want to get lost on 2 wheels, hehe. ;D
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Post by pjax on Jul 2, 2006 15:05:52 GMT 8
mountguitars, i think thu gps unit dirk77 is using has mapping and navigation... the garmin edge 305 doesn't...
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Post by Dragunov on Jul 3, 2006 11:28:13 GMT 8
hmmmm gps, id like to have one thats worth it, basic functions only will do, any suggestions |
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i think that with that gadget, you will have a lot of confidence tackling unknown trails, do you guys know of a similar product that is cheaper? 
