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Post by warlock^_^ on Sept 29, 2004 14:58:57 GMT 8
;D What would you get if you cross a hiking shoes & a cycling shoes...... this! I LIKE! Gore-Tex lined hiking boot with a Vibram sole and SPD fittings but at 170 pounds...that freaking 17K pesos
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Post by kicker15 on Sept 29, 2004 15:18:06 GMT 8
ang mahal naman nyan i still use salomon for both bniking and hiking
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Post by warlock^_^ on Sept 29, 2004 15:23:47 GMT 8
ang mahal naman nyan i still use salomon for both bniking and hiking Hey Kicker, does your Salomons have SPD fittings?
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Sept 29, 2004 22:36:54 GMT 8
why not nike kato's? they're acg's but i'm not totally sure their good for hiking though
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Post by maxbuwaya on Sept 30, 2004 9:34:41 GMT 8
My EXUS is good for cycling and hiking, I know kasi madalas ako mag lakad pataas hehehehe
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Post by warlock^_^ on Sept 30, 2004 9:39:51 GMT 8
why not nike kato's? they're acg's but i'm not totally sure their good for hiking though I dont know if any of you guys have worn hiking shoes that are soled by Vibram and Goretex lined.... on wet rocky hikes...vibram really sticks I have a Nike Air Tumalo for hiking..any shoes will do for cycling since I have platforms for pedal;D Shimano shoes have this pedal centering characteristics that wont you groping for your pedals whenever you want to clip on.
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Post by jr on Sept 30, 2004 12:29:33 GMT 8
I use shimano FR65.
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Post by elai on Sept 30, 2004 20:02:03 GMT 8
;D What would you get if you cross a hiking shoes & a cycling shoes...... this! I LIKE! Gore-Tex lined hiking boot with a Vibram sole and SPD fittings but at 170 pounds...that freaking 17K pesos Nyikes...looks kinda heavy... And um...mahal, huh? Hmp! Di maganda yan.... pangit yan warlock! Hehhe...
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Post by warlock^_^ on Oct 2, 2004 15:02:58 GMT 8
Nyikes...looks kinda heavy... And um...mahal, huh? Hmp! Di maganda yan.... pangit yan warlock! Hehhe... ...... ...... ....... cge na.... .....flowers?
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 5, 2004 16:56:25 GMT 8
mga sir, since were this is a shoe thread might as well ask...
I use my old reliable rockport shoe last Munti trails. due to the mud, the first sole of both shoes took off..pero a small rubber lining was left so I did have shoes to pedal on my way back...
now am on the market for shoes for MTB..I used to wear Vans shoes in my BMX (ahh memories)...can I still wear them on my MTB? I have platform pedals and am NOT thinking of going clipless anytime soon...masyado nako madaming sugat..hehe..
any suggestions? thanks!
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Post by dasaint on Oct 5, 2004 18:37:24 GMT 8
I use merrel hiking shoes or Salomon
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Post by elai on Oct 5, 2004 19:54:26 GMT 8
I use merrel hiking shoes or Salomon Between Merrel and Salomon... I say go for Merrel if ayaw mo madulas...mas makapit talaga Vibram compared to Salomons Contra-grip este, contagrip. ;D
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Post by capreboy on Oct 5, 2004 22:30:19 GMT 8
Between Merrel and Salomon... I say go for Merrel if ayaw mo madulas...mas makapit talaga Vibram compared to Salomons Contra-grip este, contagrip. ;D hehehe... I second that!! warlock: pero ganda nung shoes no, pwede na tyong magbike sa Mt. UGU ;D ;D.. mahal nga lang hehehe
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Post by warlock^_^ on Oct 6, 2004 9:16:11 GMT 8
hehehe... I second that!! warlock: pero ganda nung shoes no, pwede na tyong magbike sa Mt. UGU ;D ;D.. mahal nga lang hehehe ha! Mt. Ugu? Bikeable nga yun, pero parang ayaw ko yata i-bike yung part malapit sa waterfall....sheer cliff yung kabila eh. Nasubukan ko gamitin sa bike ride tung hiking shoes ko, hirap! unless you loosen the ankle lace. I use this... for climbing...not good for biking ;D Mr. Suave...I second Elai's & Capreboy advise hehehe these are my climbing buddies...seen them sliding all over the place with those Salomon's Contagrip. Specially if the trail are muddy or with mossy rocks ;D but if you plan to use it as all around riding...any comfortable shoes will do, guess your Vans will do just fine. Just dont go hiking or mud wrestling with em ;D
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 6, 2004 10:41:56 GMT 8
Elai, Capreboy Uy guys, I own three Salomons..favorite brand ko yun eh...wag nyo apihin ;D... in defense...I have been using Salomons for quite some years now...they're comfy shoes for all day walking...I walked them in almost all terrains...they worked fine naman. I have a Merrel midcut din, they're good shoes also. The only problem I had is that they dont have Goretex lining for waterproofing. They one's I had wasnt as water resistant as my Salomon mids..but both shoes provide good comfort and durability. Yun lang po bow Merrel for biking....hmmmmm..pwede
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Post by kiddfoes on Oct 6, 2004 12:31:11 GMT 8
I have these 2 years running. Once used in a marsh land for 2 miles, my feet are dry as a bone. EMS Summit GTX II
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Post by oilman on Oct 6, 2004 14:37:20 GMT 8
TEVA shoes for BHiking!!! Sa mga gusto ng Vans, end of October to mid-Dec, may binebenta sa trade fair ng Mariveles EPZA but for limited inventory. Prices range from P800-1500. Last year ganda ng shoe models nila. Good luck! ;D
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 13, 2004 10:18:04 GMT 8
Oilman brother, ingat ka lang sa Teva slip-ons..mine gave way during a trek to the pinatubo crater...tapos ayaw honor ng Teva sa warranty...my fault din siguro kasi I lost the receipt. 8-)Pero I didnt expect the shoes to have been broken that easy. just a simple reminder lang sir -san yun Vans factory sir? please point directions..I feel good biking with old-skul vans..parang may hangover pa talaga ako ng BMX thanks brad!
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Post by warlock^_^ on Oct 13, 2004 10:32:25 GMT 8
Oilman brother, ingat ka lang sa Teva slip-ons..mine gave way during a trek to the pinatubo crater...tapos ayaw honor ng Teva sa warranty...my fault din siguro kasi I lost the receipt. 8-)Pero I didnt expect the shoes to have been broken that easy. just a simple reminder lang sir Pinatubo? Mr. Suave you really have a nice knack on choosing where to test your Teva , That place claims a lot of Hiking shoes and sandals already including my trusty Hitec. I mean both of them broke , had to tie them with safety line just so I can make it back to our transport.
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 13, 2004 11:36:21 GMT 8
warlock, I make sure masulit mga gamit ko..hehe..anyways did you see the crater pre? that's one hell of a trek noh...it was also my first time to ride hardcore 4x4's on the way....tapos we have to walk for almost 6 hours to the crater. or mabagal lang talaga ako maglakad..hehe...naka four times na ata ako pumanik dun..all work related..last time was when GMA went up the crater...she walked all the way din!!! and she was using TEVA shoes din hehe...pero yung sakin ang bumigay..yung sa kanya dehins
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Post by oilman on Oct 13, 2004 12:04:29 GMT 8
Mr. Suave, kaya pala nung binili ko, may nakasulat "warranty void if used for Pinatubo Trek" ;D Well I use mine mostly during wet exploration rides only, but always paired them with platform pedals. K pa naman...ang laces ;D Mariveles Trade Fair, Mariveles, Bataan EPZA Admin building parking area. I'm not sure the featured products this year but participating Korean companies sell same orig export shoes for a limited number. Subukan mo sa November, and try to hook up with our Nov ride to Quinauan point (dun' ang take off point usually).
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 13, 2004 13:16:48 GMT 8
thanks mr. oilman..will try to come to that nov. ride... and dont loose that warranty card ok.. ;D
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Post by mad_doc on Oct 13, 2004 16:51:01 GMT 8
hmm was at cartimar the other day looking for a pair of Merells... found it alright, they have seveal models that cost from 2,700 Php (lowcut tractor grip) to the new gore-tex lined ones (4,200 Php) that pretty much looked like the ones that cost 170 british pounds. bangis ng itsura ng mga soles nito parang mga gazaloddis ;D
but i did also find a pair of japeyks na timberlands at 800 Php. kasi i was thinking... if i'm using platform pedals... won't they bite into the soles of these expensive shoes? so i thought why not have semi-disposable shoes para kahit ngatngatin ang suelas eh di ka naman iiyak ;D i think good for maybe 5 or more dry mud rides and maybe 3 or 4 mucky trails. what do you guys think?
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Post by gulliver on Oct 13, 2004 18:43:34 GMT 8
mad_doc, unang-una, mas delikado ang platforms sa mabilis na padjakan, sa malubak na terrain, at sa putik...dumudulas! go clipless! once you're over the honeymoon stage w/ clipless pedals/shoes (i.e. falling b/c of forgetting you're clipped in when dismounting hehehe), they're insurance that your pedals won't slip and come back to knock you on your shin or your knee....then get biking shoes that are mud-rated (i.e. deep treads like those on the Louis Garneau Ergogrips among others) and you'll survive most bike rides. hiking is a different activity all together and demands its own special equipment. for one thing, i'm not really into carrying my bike over long distances hehehe
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Post by maxbuwaya on Oct 13, 2004 20:26:29 GMT 8
eto alternative sa mga famous brand clipless compatible pero oks sa pang hiking kahit sa putik. on casual wear dehins nakasayad ang cleats kahit sa flat land natest ko sa pinugay just last 10/9 heheheeh
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Post by warlock^_^ on Oct 14, 2004 8:28:06 GMT 8
clipless compatible pero oks sa pang hiking kahit sa putik. on casual wear dehins nakasayad ang cleats kahit sa flat land natest ko sa pinugay just last 10/9 heheheeh Max, midcut to? leather ba ibang parts? para protected ang ankles eh.
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Post by MR. SUAVE on Oct 14, 2004 9:56:18 GMT 8
mad_doc, go clipless! once you're over the honeymoon stage w/ clipless pedals/shoes (i.e. falling b/c of forgetting you're clipped in when dismounting hehehe), they're insurance that your pedals won't slip and come back to knock you on your shin or your knee....then get biking shoes that are mud-rated (i.e. deep treads like those on the Louis Garneau Ergogrips among others) and you'll survive most bike rides. Gulli, do you think it's ok to go clipless even for newbies. wala pa kaming skills eh..am thinking I should sharpen my MTB skills first then maybe try clipless afterwards...wat u think? Ok rin ba shimano na entry level SPD's?
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Post by gulliver on Oct 14, 2004 15:17:28 GMT 8
Gulli, do you think it's ok to go clipless even for newbies. wala pa kaming skills eh..am thinking I should sharpen my MTB skills first then maybe try clipless afterwards...wat u think? Ok rin ba shimano na entry level SPD's? let me tell you about my own experience...if i remember right, mga 2-3 months after i picked up this hobby last year...which was about the time when i also bought my first serious hardtail (a giant xtc), i had a set of entry-level Shimano SPDs installed on the xtc. nakakabit pa nun yung plastic platforms nya on one side, for those times when takot ako mag clip in. first bike ko kasi, a Scott mall bike, had platforms. my curiousity was aroused by mtb friends telling me that clipless actually gave you more control when trail riding, when climbing blah-blah-blah. pero, and naturally takot ako sa clipless dahil isip ko noon, naka lock-in ako sa pedals...paano kung malaglag ako?! hehehe, so yes i had my share of spills, about 3-4 of them! but they all happened while trying to get off the bike when stopping. anyway, still wary of my clipless pedal skills, i would switch between the SPDs and my platforms. for what i thought were techy rides, i'd put on the platforms and bought a set of Teva hiking-running shoes to use with them....kasi, palagi ako forced magtulak nun hehehe. so for the most part, they served their purpose well...nakakahike ako but would slip once in a while, kumakagat ang pedals sa soles nila but once in a while (on muddy rides esp and on rough downhill runs) they'd slip and give me a painful blow to my shins...ARRRRAAY! the kicker was in Bataan, on the killer-loop trail...while trying to hike down a steep dusty trail, with my Tevas on, one arm on my bike, and half-sitting, half-crouching, i tried to climb down a very steep technical incline. b/c of the loose surface, my Tevas slipped from under me, sending me spinning through the air, and a loud crack ensued..i had twisted my ankle big time. i managed to bike back to oilman's base, and drive from bataan to manila. but for 6 weeks after that, i couldn't bike...or run...or walk at any speed. i limped. that's when i made my decision, based on the ff: 1) hiking shoes don't guarantee you won't fall 2) hiking shoes don't guarantee your feet won't slip off the pedals 3) i learned that better SPD pedals would let me disengage more smoothly and faster when i needed to...so i got the best available at that time, the 959s ;D 4) that SPD mtb shoes could be bought with better soles for better traction on soil i also decided then that i would try with all my might, to stay on the bike, and NOT forget that i was clipped in. to this day, dehins ako nagsisi ;D so to answer your question, master balance, master your gears, master your eye for the line, and as soon as possible, master using clipless pedals...and vow to stay on the bike
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Post by gulliver on Oct 14, 2004 15:25:55 GMT 8
oh, at isa pa, if you're getting shoes that you can use for biking AND for some hiking (you probably imagine this happening on a bike ride right?) get biking shoes not hiking shoes. you want them light, vented, and stiff with good soles for grip in mud. stay away from hi-cuts (you need those for serious hiking!), heavy leathers, and non-gum soles.
you want to be comfortable and effficient when pedalling 90% of the time, and maybe have some road grip for a little hike-a-bike about 10% of the time. if much more than that time is needed for hiking, leave your bike behind hehehe...i don't find it fun carrying your bike for any extended period of time. ;D
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Post by radical1962 on Oct 14, 2004 16:20:15 GMT 8
Mr. Suave,
I fully agree with Gulliver. It took me more than 1 year before I switched over to clipless. I focused first on improving my endurance and other riding skills. After I thought that everything was up to my expected performance level, I made the leap to clipless. I bought the same SPD pedals as Gulliver to assure that my migration to being clipped would be as smooth as possible... after a couple of falls, and months of practicing, it's now second nature to me to be clipped in. In fact, I feel a bit uncomfortable riding platforms. I feel as though I'm disconnected from the bike.
My advice is get the best clipless pedal and shoes that you can afford and try it out.
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