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Post by warlock^_^ on Jul 13, 2004 17:31:09 GMT 8
Hey guys, just would like to present some bikes that we normally dont see on our local trail ;D Please better get the drool bib to protect the keyboard Presenting [glow=red,2,300]Turner 5-Spot[/glow] The 5 spot is the ultimate trail bike. It gets 5 inches of rear travel, light weight, Turner quality, you can't go wrong. This bike does it all. It climbs and descends with unequaled balance of rock gobbling suspension, and single track carving. Features a Romic shock, double butted tubing, and is compatable with disk brakes or v-brakes.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Aug 18, 2004 14:58:32 GMT 8
The Cannondale Prophecy Singletrack ride report eThou shall not ride @#$%f - The Creator Cannondale have always been an innovative company that have not followed the path well travelled. This is evident in products such as the Lefty Fork and Fulcrum, not a company to rest on their laurels Cannondale have a desire to consistently improve their product range and develop bikes that inspire riders. Taking a look at the current line up they felt that it was missing a bike that can do it all. Up and down without the weight penalty. Enter The Prophet The specifications are as follows: 140mm (5.5 inches) travel front and rear Designed around the new Carbon Max Lefty Fork (3.8lbs) and the Manitou Swinger SPV Shock Frame and Swingarm weight is 2.38kg (5.25lbs) on a Medium frame Top end bike build weight will be around the 11kg (24lb) mark. Hydroformed Super V frameset incorporating thickness less than 2mm 1.5 Head tube 2 Geometry positions. 69 degree XC and 67.5 Freeride positions. Single Pivot 2.5 inch tyre maximum Two models. The Prophet and the 4x Version that differs by having a 12mm bolt though hub and single ring set up. Cannondale are marketing this bike at the Enduro/Freeride-Lite niche with it sitting in between the Freeride Gemini and the Jekyl with a motto of eNo Compromise: Less weight, More travel. Cannondale have designed the Prophet with the ability to get to the top of the mountain and then shred the descent back down. They invited journalists from all over the world to the wondrous singletrack of Lenzerheide, Switzerland to spend two days riding up and down some quintessential singletrack (and maybe the odd use of a chairlift). A clever move to maybe distract away from any shortcomings of their new product? The first two hours was spent listening to the Designers, Testers and Engineers waxing lyrical about the hydroformed tubing, balance of the bike being perfect, the 10 months of testing with Cedric Garcia to get the swingarm flex right. It is clear that they have put a huge amount of effort, research and passion into this bike to produce the lightest longest travel bike in its class. Being pretty new to all this press-camp stuff, I was easily won over by the American style propaganda and with all the talk of immediate response, stable platform and general optimism that this was indeed THE bike to ride got me pretty excited! The Prophet looks essentially like a cross between the old Super V and the Gemini but thatfs where the similarities end [Anyone else think it looks rather like an older Marin? Ed]. The scales demonstrates its flyweight pedigree and a short blast up a hill to grab photos demonstrate that it is a fast mover with little or no pedal bob courtesy of the Manitou Swinger shock. Although the frame looks like a Gemini it is not. Every tube has been carefully designed and made as light and strong as possible. With 1.5 Headtube technology, variable downtube wall to strengthen pivot and BB where there has been a history of failures in the past, a top tube that has been formed and tapered to increase footprint on downtube to increase impact strength and the incredible swingarm. The swingarm is a welded hollow-core (The hollow-core design boosts stiffness by 25-30%) pivot with CNCfd forging for precision alignment, strength and weight savings. The chain stays have been 3-D formed and tapered to optimise lateral and torsional stiffness and tuned for vertical compliance that means heavy landing loads will be evenly distributed.
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Post by fattire on Aug 19, 2004 1:26:58 GMT 8
my two cents on prophet: i immediately noticed the swingarm. swingarm? while everybody else had cracked their heads and came out with 4 bar linkages, virtual pivot points, and no resonance systems, cannondale comes out with a swingarm. it's like saying it's all in the suspension! talk about re-inventing the wheel! i'm no guru, will never be; i'm just a rec&commuter rider and i'm happy as a clam about it, but i had never reserved any love for cannondale. give me a taiwan made bike anytime! look at CODA, where are they now? unless they sell this cheap and it really works, i'm hardtail all the way until someone comes up with a sensible design like the nrs or the jamis dakar. to add a few more to my unsolicited 2 cents, i firmly believe that any given bike is a one way machine. you spec it burly and it goes downhill fine but uphill tortured, same with freeride rigs. you spec it lean and you climb fast but descend with caution. and if your wheels are skinny then you're a roadie no matter how "advanced" the designs are, it's just a means to decrease the disadvantage of any given rig. i don't know how far we are to a 2-way machine but it's not going to be announced by some false prophet! kaya pag nanalo ako sa lotto, bibili ako ng ellsworth truth AND dare! teka, gawa sa US yun...
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Post by warlock^_^ on Aug 19, 2004 8:48:06 GMT 8
kaya pag nanalo ako sa lotto, bibili ako ng ellsworth truth AND dare! teka, gawa sa US yun... Before you do...better read this warrant issue about Ellworth *link* And by the way...NRS & the earlier design of Jamis Dakar is using specialized Horst-link 4 bar suspension. The one your calling Swingarm is referred to as the single-pivot suspension, Santa cruz superlight, heckler & bullit still use this. pero pag nanalo ka ng Lotto, tag-isa kami rito ng bike ha? ;D Akin Titus Racer 100X
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Post by fattire on Aug 19, 2004 13:39:43 GMT 8
Santacruz gets my respect bec. they stand by their product; that tells me they're not hype driven. dehins pa ako fat tire rider swingarm na ang bullit, hanggang ngayon naglalabas pa rin sila ng bullit with the same design, tulo pa rin laway ko pag nakakakita ko nun. pag nakita mo yung kintab ng swingarm nung bullit na nakita ko sa UP a few weeks back, nakakabaliw! teka, cannondale do stand by their product, yung lefty. not the riders though point is, swingarm, circa 2004 design, i don' get it eto pa, swingarm, xc? i'll never find fault with Santacruz, the 'corest rider will know better not to dis them, ako pa kayang rec rider lang? about the ellsworth, sige orange na lang, o di kaya voodoo (meron pa ba nito?), o di kaya cove, pag ikaw naman ang nanalo sa lotto, tama na sa kin ang brodie
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Post by warlock^_^ on Aug 19, 2004 14:01:52 GMT 8
pag ikaw naman ang nanalo sa lotto, tama na sa kin ang brodie Sure pre! kaya lang I dont bet on Lotto eh By the way, all rear triagle of the full suspension frames are referred to as SWINGARM....will it be VPP, Single Pivot, Monolink or FSR. Santacruz do stand by their product, the single pivot design was originally implemented to their early model Tazmon which later on replaced by Heckler & Superlight, as the goes on a lot of minor changes were applied on the frames. Here's the link of specialized comparing the other suspension design like Single Pivot, Virtual Pivot, Monolink & NRS ;D FSR Comparability
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Post by trixxter on Sept 1, 2004 21:17:07 GMT 8
Warlock, Has CANNONDALE abandoned their HEADSHOCK front fork? I just always see LEFTY's mounted on their top models.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Sept 8, 2004 9:07:21 GMT 8
Warlock, Has CANNONDALE abandoned their HEADSHOCK front fork? I just always see LEFTY's mounted on their top models. Trix, They still have the HEADSHOK but since its a short travel fork (guess cheaper also ), its now fitted only to cannondale's lower-end hardtail series. With the trend now in MTB which is the longer travel the better ;D (yeah men & sizes) If you look at their catalog now, HEADSHOKS also complements their Street bikes like the Fat Boys.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Oct 4, 2004 9:56:23 GMT 8
THE REIGN Engineers at Giant have been working behind closed doors on a new suspension platform for some time. While other companies let details of their 2005 lines slip weeks or even months ago, Giant's lips remained sealed—until yesterday, when company officials divulged a few details about the new design. Called Maestro, the suspension platform will appear on three new bike lines—the Trance, the Reign and the Faith—which offer between 4 and 8 inches of travel. The secret behind the suspension is that it uses a floating pivot point that increases efficiency by counteracting pedaling forces. The suspension promises to be smooth, efficient and sensitive. Although Maestro uses a floating pivot point like the VPP system used by Santa Cruz and others, it was developed with proprietary designs and works differently than existing systems. Steve Westover, Giant's promotions manager, said the suspension's floating pivot, four-bar linkage and linear spring rate make it incredibly sensitive over small bumps, but it still resist pedal bob and brake jacking. He said the name Maestro comes from the design's shock, frame design and linkage points, which "all work in harmony." Depending on components, the 4-inch travel Trance weighs about 26 pounds. It is for cross-country and epic rides and prices run from $1,200 to $3,400. The Reign is positioned in the heart of the burgeoning "trail" bike category. The 28-pound bike (depending on spec) has 6 inches of front and rear travel. Suspension comes from a Manitou Swinger Three Way shock in the back and Manitou's Nixon fork. It will cost between $1,600 and $3,300. The Faith, with 8 inches of travel, should be music to freeriders' ears. Giant promises that the bike will absorb big hits, but still survive the occasional climb. Retail prices start at $2,000. Each of the bikes will come in three models. With the new designs, Giant is doing away with its VT bikes, but its popular NRS full-suspension bikes remain in the line, as do the XtC hardtails. more about the Maestro suspension www.suspensionmadeharmonious.com/Another picture of Reign *LINK*Giant Trance *LINK**LINK*
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hingal aso
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In my dreams!!!!!!!
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Post by hingal aso on Oct 5, 2004 10:28:12 GMT 8
Mukhang kailangan ko mag-recalibrate ng wish list
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Post by gwm..."GRASS-HAPA" on Oct 5, 2004 22:53:32 GMT 8
oh my Lord... think i'm in love with the future
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Post by radical1962 on Oct 6, 2004 15:58:27 GMT 8
I think I'm in love
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Post by warlock^_^ on Nov 6, 2004 13:18:17 GMT 8
For the last two seasons, SC's Syndicate riders have been racing slalom and 4-X on Blurs. Or have they? Those Blur-ry things theyve been riding were actually a lot different than what most of us could expect to find under the Christmas tree. They had beefier down tubes, top tubes and seat tubes. Head tubes were slacker than their less abuse-destined showroom floor brethren (69 degrees with a 4.5 inch travel fork), and gusseted up to handle the loads of six-inch travel forks.They were sort of like what would happen if a Blur and a Heckler got all boozed up on Red Bull and Vodka and then locked themselves in the back of a 73 Chevy Van with shag carpet and bubble windows for a few hours. Anyway, SC decided to start selling them. They kick ass. A little heavier and a lot mo brawny than a Blur, more VPP suave than a Heckler, and probably more able to handle casing a double jump than you or us, the Blur 4x just might be that do-it-all bike we all keep dreaming about. BLUR 4x FEATURES 115mm Rear travel | Custom Butted 6069 Tubeset | Replaceable Dropout | Upto 150mm Travel Fork | Durable Anodized or Powdercoat Finish | Disc Only
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Post by warlock^_^ on Dec 13, 2004 8:29:41 GMT 8
You've been invited on a ride. You don't know the trail. You don't know the people. You're not even sure where the ride is. Will it be a hammerfest? Will they take you on the most technical ride you've ever done? Who Cares! You're on a Moto-Lite. It's the bike you've been waiting for. It has literally taken Titus years to develop a bike that strikes that perfect balance between short and long travel. Titus wanted the unrivaled pedaling performance, frame stiffness, and handling of the Racer-X. It had to be stable, light, and still have the ability to handle nearly 6" travel forks. It had to perform exceptionally well with either an air or a coil-over shock. It had to inspire confidence no matter how or where you ride. It has to put a smile on your face when you even think about getting on it. This bike has to be ridden to be believed! The Moto-Lite takes everything Titus know about suspension today, and rolls it into one incredible machine. It is the ultimate expression of performance and technology in a suspension bike. A fine exercise in shock tuning, linkage rates, wheel travel paths, material stiffness, bearing quality, pivot design, and materials. It may drive Titus to insanity, but it will make you ride faster, stronger and longer. No, it's not Viagra - It's the new Moto-Lite! Dual Rate/ Dual Travel Choose 4 or 5" of travel and either an air or coil shock. Perfect for wherever you ride. Lots and lots of shocks. Air or Coil. Tech Details like Chain growth & Axle path check this thread *LINK*Motolite Discussion in MTBR *LINK*
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 27, 2005 9:09:15 GMT 8
[glow=red,2,300]2005 Iron Horse Factory Sunday[/glow] click for complete story...Everyone pretty much knows the feeling of waiting for a new bike? The wait – tap tap tap – the anticipation - tap tap tap – then there’s the first “another two weeks” update – bang bang bang – then the second “another two weeks” – BANG BANG BANG. You know the drill!! About the Iron Horse SundayWhat’s all the fuss about the Iron Horse Sunday? After a brief chat with the master mind behind the DW-Link, here is what Dave had to say: The Sunday is a DW-Link bike. The DW-Link is very unique as far as suspension systems go. It basically counteracts mass transfer and pedaling forces as you accelerate. In essence, compared to other frames, this means that there is significantly less compressive force acting on the rear wheel as you accelerate. The suspension only has to deal with absorbing bumps, not absorbing bumps PLUS acceleration forces. This lets you run a lot less damping and a lower spring rate. It also lets the bike hook up better in corners off the power because the bike is not overly stiff to compensate for pedaling. If you think this sounds pretty trick actually – you should get to try one!! Because the Sunday has a low leverage ratio, and also because the Sunday's leverage rate curve was designed to be less progressive in the beginning of the stroke than many older bikes. This in itself rquires less low speed compression damping. As a rule of thumb so far, the DH/FR DW link bikes (Sunday and 7POINT) have required 1/3 of the damping that a non DW-Link bike requires. I know it sounds extreme, and most of the shock makers didn't believe it at first, but that is the reality, tested and proven on the computer for 3.5 years and testing on the trail for a solid 2 years now. Up close and personal with the IH Factory Sunday Framephoto.pinkbike.com/photo/482/med/mpbpic482454.jpg [/img]
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