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Post by wendellc on Jan 30, 2008 10:17:16 GMT 8
If I remember it right, RST Alfalfas have 36mm stanchions. They were quite beefy for forks of their generation. Though a picture can say a thousand words, it would be best to first get the facts on how the arch cracked. You can't make an accurate judgement on the fork's (or any product for that matter)durability without first knowing what really happened. For all we know, the biker-owner of that Alfalfa may have used the fork way beyond its limits. I just don't trust RST forks anymore no matter how it is suppose to be ridden.
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 30, 2008 10:25:25 GMT 8
by the way as what type of riding is the "alfalfa" design for ba?...... FR, DJ, DH?
for that beefy looks i would assume its for FR.... however how did it happen that it snap?
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Post by bobby on Jan 30, 2008 12:00:34 GMT 8
For all the bruhaha, lets ask the opinion of the experts mythbuster, I hope He finds time in reading this thread. I just don't trust RST forks anymore no matter how it is suppose to be ridden. I respect your humble opinion. its a free country anyways.
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 30, 2008 12:37:32 GMT 8
I just don't trust RST forks anymore no matter how it is suppose to be ridden. too bad... this is an "RST LAUNCH T8 FORK" review... that's democracy at work... ;D ;D peace!!!
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 30, 2008 16:20:23 GMT 8
What's goin on? Thread review that has gone negative... the discussion heats up. It's hot here eheh.... ;D ;D Yup, that's democracy bros and sis!
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Post by Patrick on Jan 30, 2008 17:09:43 GMT 8
For all the bruhaha, lets ask the opinion of the experts mythbuster, I hope He finds time in reading this thread. I just don't trust RST forks anymore no matter how it is suppose to be ridden. I respect your humble opinion. its a free country anyways. I just don't trust RST forks anymore no matter how it is suppose to be ridden. Everything breaksI guess you won't trust Marzocchi too... Or maybe another brand wont' trust Suntour too BTW Endless has this fork available^ or a manitou maybe I bet your going rigid.... oh I guess not.... there still Fox, Pace and Magura you know...hehehe
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 30, 2008 17:13:44 GMT 8
@ PAT.....hehehehe maybe its the rider ..... can i buy a good rider? LOL!!!!!
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 30, 2008 17:34:46 GMT 8
patrickdeym dude those are pretty nasty. again i hope no one got seriously hurt in the making of those photos. what brand of fork was this?...
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Post by Patrick on Jan 30, 2008 19:32:46 GMT 8
I guess thats a DURO, misplaced hehe
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Post by wendellc on Jan 30, 2008 21:46:24 GMT 8
patrickYup, i agree everything breaks. Performance wise i dont go for RST forks. RST forks cannot even do a smooth xc riding. The forks are so stiff, heavy etc....
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Post by olrac on Jan 30, 2008 22:12:51 GMT 8
but i remember my friend's dad who go trails and mild downhill in early 90's uses rst fork.. they've been to baguio and sagada.. hmmm..
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 30, 2008 22:28:27 GMT 8
i think if these products hit our LBS some people would be singing a different tune about RST forks... www.rstmtb.com/then again that might be a very big IF. trans: sulat tayo sa wish ko lang. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jd00 on Jan 30, 2008 23:54:40 GMT 8
i think if these products hit our LBS some people would be singing a different tune about RST forks... www.rstmtb.com/then again that might be a very big IF. trans: sulat tayo sa wish ko lang. ;D ;D ;D Yeah still hoping and praying to get that new rst fork (Storm, Space)......
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Post by bobby on Jan 31, 2008 4:03:16 GMT 8
patrickYup, i agree everything breaks. Performance wise i dont go for RST forks. RST forks cannot even do a smooth xc riding. The forks are so stiff, heavy etc... Patrick has spoken, olrac has given his views, I rest my case. But, I disagree with you, Its just like you saying, its a pity, look at bobby's bicycle equipped with an RST fork. It might be on the heavy side and stiff i agree big time, but I made that decision before buying that RST. It fitted my budget, I held it, pumped it a few times and decided that it was for me. November, December, January, I had no qualms about it, and I'm telling you it was a Smoooth ride for me and my wife for three months now.
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Post by sdny on Jan 31, 2008 8:53:44 GMT 8
so, all those fork are busted even the most expensive one busted! mythbuster where are you? need some good advice on how to used the fork in most proper way.... and let's "do a pray over on all our fork's" not to ruined our riding this weekend! okey guys let's back to rst t8 launch reviews......pls........
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 31, 2008 8:56:09 GMT 8
@ sir bobby good for you sir...... guys let me tell you something ...... the real essence of mountainbiking is being one with yer bike, does enjoying the time while riding the bike..... "NOT" by going big time and spending so much for a fork thats so good you can even framed it and hang it in the wall...
my point is .....
reviews came from diff. people with diff type of riding, but uses one specific fork..... again dont trust to much to it..... as it happened to me...... XCR reviews went so high that it even turned my head.... but now it all ends up to regrets
so man just shut up and ride
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Post by mckouleith on Jan 31, 2008 9:01:37 GMT 8
i think if these products hit our LBS some people would be singing a different tune about RST forks... www.rstmtb.com/then again that might be a very big IF. trans: sulat tayo sa wish ko lang. ;D ;D ;D you're definitely right, i think, one LBS will be displaying this stuff by March... i really found RST stiff, but for a 195lbs rider, i guess stiff is not a word for me, stiff in the sense for lighter rider... so goes why there's a knob for your own adjustment, to be able to ride smooth, i turn the knob for a softer rebound... that's my opinion... ;D ;D i guess what patrick wanted to point out is that it's not just RST that was prone to break, almost everyone else does... it is on the user on how he/she will handle/manhandle the fork... my 2 cents opinion here...
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Post by glockbiker on Jan 31, 2008 11:24:53 GMT 8
bobbyAside from the steerer tube, the RST T8's crown and stanchions are also made of steel. Try it with a magnet. I also noticed that somehow, the magnet sticks stronger to the stanchions compared to the crown.
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 31, 2008 11:45:03 GMT 8
i think, one LBS will be displaying this stuff by March... what LBS is this brad? bobbyAside from the steerer tube, the RST T8's crown and stanchions are also made of steel. Try it with a magnet. I also noticed that somehow, the magnet sticks stronger to the stanchions compared to the crown. is this true? the crown is also made of steel? tibay non but yeah thats bound to be really heavy.
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Post by Patrick on Jan 31, 2008 12:13:55 GMT 8
Carlos with his cracked RST fork (ahem same model as the one pictured before with the same crack) Don't worry about him he does this to his cracked RST all the time. My point here guys is don't be a baby and just learn how to land properly and you will be fine with these forks. BTW I rode a launch and its waaaaaaay better than an Suntour XCR because its a lot stiffer, not for babies though. BTW you can fix a Suntour rebound by doing some ghetto magik on it.
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Post by Patrick on Jan 31, 2008 12:19:04 GMT 8
i think if these products hit our LBS some people would be singing a different tune about RST forks... www.rstmtb.com/then again that might be a very big IF. trans: sulat tayo sa wish ko lang. ;D ;D ;D Those forks are mainly for the US market and they have a 24 hr turnaround time for warranty calims.
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 31, 2008 12:37:24 GMT 8
i think if these products hit our LBS some people would be singing a different tune about RST forks... www.rstmtb.com/then again that might be a very big IF. trans: sulat tayo sa wish ko lang. ;D ;D ;D Those forks are mainly for the US market and they have a 24 hr turnaround time for warranty calims. honga i read that somewhere. thats why seeing those forks available here is a really big IF for us. really blows to be on the bottom of the mtb food chain. ;D
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Post by ej on Jan 31, 2008 12:46:44 GMT 8
i guess rst launch isn't bad after all i was really depresed about that broken rst launch but i guess patrics right you must learn to land properly
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Post by Patrick on Feb 3, 2008 22:21:14 GMT 8
honga i read that somewhere. thats why seeing those forks available here is a really big IF for us. really blows to be on the bottom of the mtb food chain. ;D Theres an up side on being at the bottom of the mtb foodchain...you worry less about breaking your stuff than those on top.
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Post by wendellc on Feb 3, 2008 22:48:35 GMT 8
BTW I rode a launch and its waaaaaaay better than an Suntour XCR because its a lot stiffer, not for babies though. BTW you can fix a Suntour rebound by doing some ghetto magik on it. I just laughed when you said Launch is way better. Stiff and heavy is your meaning of "way better". hehehe.... you put picture of a person jumping a stiff RST fork and you said it depends on how you land it? On drops, free ride and on jumps in "real mountain biking" you dont need a stiff fork brad. How can a "stiff fork" absorb the pounding? Does this depend on how the way a rider lands? I surely disgree. eheheh..... ;D ;D Just imagine a stiff fork doing drops or jumps?
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Post by bobby on Feb 4, 2008 1:24:36 GMT 8
i have noticed that factory OEM settings on Launch forks are stiffer than XCR's, but i know a lot of riders who are comfortable with stiffer forks (makunat) as they call it.I compared the two forks and i both loved them. It just takes getting used to.
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Post by glockbiker on Feb 4, 2008 9:36:21 GMT 8
bobbyI was wrong about the Launch crown- it is made out of aluminum alloy after all. I went over it with a magnet again. My mistake was that before, I stuck the magnet only in the parts of the crown where the steerer tube and the stanchions were inserted. It was a big powerful magnet (pang speakers). This time I touched the part that bridges where the steerer tube and stanchion are inserted. It doesn't stick. Sorry. Mea culpa. BTW, has anybody tried weighing the RST Launch fork? Just want to compare it with the one stated in their website.
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Post by ewik on Feb 24, 2008 14:35:13 GMT 8
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Post by goldkitten on Feb 24, 2008 23:24:21 GMT 8
ewik... how does he do that on details please. Did he jump on a ramp or elevated platform then on a flatground?
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Post by ewik on Feb 25, 2008 8:07:45 GMT 8
from flat ground to flat only sir, same level.
as what patrick said, "everything breaks" ;D
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