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Post by goldkitten on Jan 3, 2008 12:32:49 GMT 8
one of the testimony that this fork can handle hard beating, hinde ko lang magawa sa setup ko kase carbon ang frame ko...Go Go Go Sir Mythbuster
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 4, 2008 9:26:20 GMT 8
alright given that its a true tested fork..... can i purchase the one that has no brake bosses? or what they call disc specific? and where to, tnx
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 4, 2008 10:46:47 GMT 8
fiona d' princessdon't know if you remember me but i've ridden with you before, the ride where papi rocky was injured. anyways i noticed that you like jumping quite a bit. i think the suntour duro would be a better fit for you. the only catch is its heavier than the epicon and only has pre-load and rebound. no lock-out like the epicon but definitely a tougher fork as it is rated for fr/dj and a bit less expensive as well. with regards to the stanchions fading, well you're just gonna have to remind your self to put grease under the seals once in a while.
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 5, 2008 9:07:11 GMT 8
fiona d' princessdon't know if you remember me but i've ridden with you before, the ride where papi rocky was injured. anyways i noticed that you like jumping quite a bit. i think the suntour duro would be a better fit for you. the only catch is its heavier than the epicon and only has pre-load and rebound. no lock-out like the epicon but definitely a tougher fork as it is rated for fr/dj and a bit less expensive as well. with regards to the stanchions fading, well you're just gonna have to remind your self to put grease under the seals once in a while. yeah i remember... and never forget ;D .....thats the thing.... "NO REBOUND".... I do hate those tops out, nakakagulo ng diskarte, and since epicon has a "REBOUND ADJUSTIBILITY" I somehow assume that i might lessen or completely remove the top out issue..... and pordios por santo .... sir XC lang po ako, dyahe nman sa mga DJ guys who knew me, never really a jumper. and one more thing, i dont want to have those brake bosses, it causes me a bit problem when removing those fat tires and regards to the seals..... sir pls elaborate ho do you lift the seals of the epicon to place your seals.... coz as for my XCR i completely detached my lowers to do so..... dont wanna do it na on my new fork....
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 5, 2008 10:36:37 GMT 8
one of the testimony that this fork can handle hard beating, hinde ko lang magawa sa setup ko kase carbon ang frame ko...Go Go Go Sir MythbusterFor 3 days I've tested this Epicon from the ranges of Sierra Madre Mountains of Caliraya to Infanta Quezon, with few common drops of trails, woods, water, mud, so far the fork stand stood still. Nice choice for mild to moderate XC riders. -again-just don't abuse it.
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 5, 2008 14:00:48 GMT 8
fiona d' princessactually the duro in king's has an adjuster on the bottom. according to the website its a rebound adjustment... www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si9b522805359b54ccad44ac52c299a1/index.php?screen=sh.product_search&query=DUROcan't remember if it has v-brake bosses but you can give jane a call and ask to confirm 7340052. on the other hand yes the epicon is an excellent choice for xc. its also way lighter but its air which i think is not as sensitive in small bumps like the coil sprung duro. about the seals, i use to this with my xcp. found the instructions on a magazine but i ended up using a flat screw driver and gently lift the rubber seal from the lowers. unti-unti lang and don't force it cause the rubber becomes brittle in time. hope you get the perfect fork for your style of riding brad.
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bobby
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Post by bobby on Jan 5, 2008 15:13:05 GMT 8
knobbyist, but thats the right way to remove it, it is even pictured in their maintenance manual Pdf format. Check it out everythings there download everything if you own one.
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tuneinlito
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 6, 2008 15:50:40 GMT 8
this fork fits my budget. i think sr suntour epicon is good enough staying in control on trails. just check out the mtbr mountain bike review website. the review on this fork is above 4 chillies. sr suntour is not a big name in forks but look at the review first, you'll think twice or be convinced.
I saw a video of the epicon in action at youtube. just type suntour epicon on youtube's search engine.
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Post by angelobryant on Jan 8, 2008 8:27:28 GMT 8
ill post my own video of the epicon later. There is a model without b-brake bosses but Im not sure why our LBS import only the ones with the boss. If you want an alternative, check out the axon, same features as the epicon but is for pure XC and its even lighter than the epicon its 1.6 kg light! =O, the one I saw have no v-brake boss so all is good. Priced a bit higher than the epicon for pure XC folks, this is a no brainer purchase. 100mm travel btw
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 8, 2008 8:50:12 GMT 8
hmmmmmnnnn as of now im now setting my eyes on the DURO..... but pls further more reviews pa of the epicon
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 8, 2008 13:20:47 GMT 8
hmmmmmnnnn as of now im now setting my eyes on the DURO..... but pls further more reviews pa of the epicon Sis, what i have is the 140 mm travel version of the epicon, the SF8 Epicon XC TAD. The fork on the right side has remote speed-lock, rebound adjust cartridge and on the left side is the air spring system. Take note shock pump is not included. A topeak shock pump will do. Epicons written on the sticker are for XC and All Mountain, it is available at 120 mm travel and 140 mm travel. Yup sis, this fork is for all mountain as well because of the stanchion tube, it is bigger and beefy. That means epicons are also for hard riding, durability can be assured. If you do hard XC riding or do downhills get the 140 mm travel but if you just like to ride around trails going less than let's say 35 kph 120 mm travel is enough. So far I have not seen any epicon that has no boss in our local bike shops. I can assure you a 2.35 tire will fit. ;D Saw your picture in the hottest female mtb'r thread. I have noticed you're using xcr at present. The epicon is way better sis. you can trust my words on that. I like your frame, the marin. Checked that frame in quiapo it was out of stock that time, bought a KHS instead.
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 8, 2008 13:47:22 GMT 8
** this depends on your riding preferences, this two fork(DURO and Epicon) has its own specific applications, DURO is particularly for DJ but not the Epicon, they both can be use for XC/AM/FR, Epicon is best in XC than the DURO because it is lighter and has the remote lockout for uphill applications...
** so it all boils down to your riding style, if your thinking of durability, both of this will live throughout your rides, unless you will abuse these till it serves its limits of usage...
** for its price you'll get a technology way better than RST at its price category, Good Luck and Ride Safe...c",?
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 8, 2008 14:19:03 GMT 8
hmmmmmnnnn as of now im now setting my eyes on the DURO..... but pls further more reviews pa of the epicon Sis, what i have is the 140 mm travel version of the epicon, the SF8 Epicon XC TAD. The fork on the right side has remote speed-lock, rebound adjust cartridge and on the left side is the air spring system. Take note shock pump is not included. A topeak shock pump will do. Epicons written on the sticker are for XC and All Mountain, it is available at 120 mm travel and 140 mm travel. Yup sis, this fork is for all mountain as well because of the stanchion tube, it is bigger and beefy. That means epicons are also for hard riding, durability can be assured. If you do hard XC riding or do downhills get the 140 mm travel but if you just like to ride around trails going less than let's say 35 kph 120 mm travel is enough. So far I have not seen any epicon that has no boss in our local baike shops. I can assure you a 2.35 tire will fit. ;D Saw your picture in the hottest female mtb'r thread. I have noticed you're using xcr at present. The epicon is way better sis. you can trust my words on that. I like your frame, the marin. Checked that frame in quiapo it was out of stock that time, bought a KHS instead. ei sir.... how much is the 140mm cost ..... is this the thru axle type?
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 8, 2008 17:51:28 GMT 8
hmmmmmnnnn as of now im now setting my eyes on the DURO..... but pls further more reviews pa of the epicon fiona d' princessi was at king's earlier and they don't have any epicons anymore, even cycle art doesn't have them anymore. apparently this fork is selling like hotcakes... must really be one hell of a fork for its price range. the duro they have has v-brake bosses afterall. btw didn't know you look like wi fi. hehehe!
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Post by bobby on Jan 8, 2008 23:01:12 GMT 8
@ knobbyist, I told you, with all of our local reviews of the epicons, what happened? Now they are considered hot items.
Dont you worry folks, in due time they'll come out again. Dont you hurry wait for the silver colored ones.
It 's all because of mythbuster's test ride reviews.
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Post by bernie on Jan 9, 2008 8:46:05 GMT 8
I.m looking for an Epicon for my new HT project for my son, wala mabili, this is your fault mythbuster, even in Kings, Pan Bicol, Decimal, Binondo, ek-ek, ano yan hoarding hehehehhe ( actually if ever I have one na, I will put that to my Haro Flightline Expert replacing the RS Dart 3, then the Dart 3, sya i-put ko sa new HT project ko )
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 9, 2008 21:18:21 GMT 8
I.m looking for an Epicon for my new HT project for my son, wala mabili, this is your fault mythbuster, even in Kings, Pan Bicol, Decimal, Binondo, ek-ek, ano yan hoarding hehehehhe ( actually if ever I have one na, I will put that to my Haro Flightline Expert replacing the RS Dart 3, then the Dart 3, sya i-put ko sa new HT project ko ) then Buy my fork, hahahaha, tested na, ;D
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Post by jeRICHo on Jan 9, 2008 21:46:52 GMT 8
i got my brother's epicon from jane last month... it was awesome...my brother haven't tried it on real trails yet but to test the strength and durability... he let me use it on a 4 footer drop, side walk drop, stair-down ride and a couple of pony little tricks with some jumps inside our village... it was really impressive but again... don't abuse it. it's really meant for xc and AM ride only... his frame? a vision pursuit 15" white... did i abused the fork?
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 9, 2008 21:54:02 GMT 8
jeRICHoa 4 footer drop is impressive for a supposed XC fork. how much do you weigh brad?
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 9, 2008 22:18:08 GMT 8
bobbyi hope the LBS are not hoarding epicons so they can sell it at a larger price eventually. hehehe! you're right brad, seems all the positive review from here have sprung a high demand for the fork. i also found this review... www.mtbr.com/reviews/2007_forks/product_128546.shtmli think one of those who submitted is the owner of this thread.
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Post by bikebuggy on Jan 10, 2008 7:15:54 GMT 8
wow.. good reviews.. 140mm fork for XC application..
please post where to buy this fork.. seems like supply is running out.. thanks!
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tuneinlito
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 19, 2008 11:24:24 GMT 8
Here's my setup with the Epcion ;D ;D
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Post by angelobryant on Jan 25, 2008 18:42:25 GMT 8
oops spoke too soon... the stanchions are showing signs of fading already. Just a bit but its there. For a month worth of use, thats very bad. But performance wise, still quite good so I wont be selling mine just yet ;D
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Post by goldkitten on Jan 26, 2008 23:45:01 GMT 8
mine Epicon got a busted Remote Lock, it doesn't lock anymore and its my fault because i forgot to unlock it after a steap accent, on a semi-rocky and steap descent at 35-45kph(100-150mm approx) while on locked mode, this happened twice and now its not working anymore. Can this be repaired, any suggestion guys?..tnx c",?
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Post by olrac on Jan 27, 2008 11:51:42 GMT 8
i know a shop that still have this fork on stock, it's been there last year of november and just this morning i went the shop and its still there.. maybe it's waiting for me.. hehehe. actually when i went there last december and look at the fork i place the fork backward so the label won't be notice by other customers because i'm eyeing to that fork.. hehehe! but now i've got a new hi-tech fork from a friend. i hope suntour will change their stanchions, i don't lke the black stanchions. it will look meaner if the stanchions looks like a real metal..
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 28, 2008 9:11:06 GMT 8
another reason why suntour fails to capture my heart...... everythings fine until their stanchions faded to metal...... perhaps the cro-mo stanchions on their other model doesn't..... coz the epicon model and the XCR that are being sold here, are made of "STKM" (stanchion tubes) dont know what the heck it means, but im pretty sure the epicon's will fade...... and guess what.... it does
now what i want to hear now is to the guys that uses the cro-mo stanchions to give their reviews
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tuneinlito
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 28, 2008 9:37:00 GMT 8
Sis, use silicon spray. Spary it on your stanchion tubes then spread with your fingers. Most experienced riders do this. The silicon will protect your stanchion from fading and wear. The silicon spray will cost around 300 to 500 pesos. You can buy this at auto shops
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 28, 2008 10:29:27 GMT 8
i think one of the factors why they fade is because the colors are not anodized to the metal. then again the stanchions would have to be (aluminum) alloy for it to be anodized. i also read in a marz manual that the designs of the stanchion seals are "frictionless". don't exactly know how they do that but this might also be true with other major brand forks. its a weakness of suntour forks with stkm or cro-mo stanchions. but of course over-all performance of suntour forks are still superb relative to its price.
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Post by fiona d' princess on Jan 28, 2008 12:04:03 GMT 8
am thinking of totally striping all of my fork to make it all silver its much good to look at it than having a faded stanchions..... just need to find out how to do it.....
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Post by angelobryant on Jan 28, 2008 13:07:04 GMT 8
am thinking of totally striping all of my fork to make it all silver its much good to look at it than having a faded stanchions..... just need to find out how to do it..... we have the same idea. and both of us don't know how to do it... YET. I'm thinking brake fluid or stripsol? what do you think?
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