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Post by warlock^_^ on May 3, 2006 20:24:54 GMT 8
We have reviews for the Fox and Zoke, guess its fair that we should have from Rock Shox as well.... so guys please feel free to post your reviews here.
Anyway... here's the criteria
Model : Year: Price: Bought from: Travel: ??mm (?in) Length of use(abuse?): Bike Setup: Pros: Cons:
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 3, 2006 20:29:49 GMT 8
Features: • 80mm travel - Can be converted to 63mm via Internal Spacer • Dual-Air Spring • Adjust Positive and Negative air pressure via schraeder valve • Pure Damping • External rebound adjustment • PopLoc Remote included • Ovalized One-Piece Magnesium lowers • Hollow forged 6061 aluminum Crown • Easton butted aluminum Steerer tube • Weight: Approx. 1374 grams / 3.02 lbs. Tried out the SID early this afternoon. Overall, there's not much difference compared to my Manitou Skareb Comp. Both are about as light and the travel is the same, 80mm. My usual set-up for my fork's air is for a 200-pound Clyde. Thus, it's stiff and hardly bottoms out. BUT since SID has a lock-out I can toggle on the fly, I opted for a softer set-up this time. It's plush but unlike zocchis (exr pro, my first fork), it feels like there's cotton inside the fork. A twist of the rebound adjuster's knob solves this. The difference between the Skareb and SID with regard to rebound dampening is, with the SID, a mild dial makes a whole LOT of difference. In fact, you'll feel the change with a quarter of a turn. With the Skareb, you're only given one whole turn and that's it. Come to think of it, SID's half turn of the rebound adjuster probably equates to the Skareb's whole turn. Skareb's rebound adjuster just isn't as sensitive as the SID. However, with the Skareb, I found that turning the rebound knob to the slowest setting is just right for me. As for the SID, I'm still playing with the settings as I go along. Ahh the pop-lock... In addition to the popular credence that the pop-lock is advantageous during climbs, I found that rolling roads with light bumps (cement or asphalt) will benefit a rider with the lock. When locked, pedaling is more efficient, and acceleration can be felt once you push harder. I tried unlocking the fork while spinning on the road. I felt sluggish and it seems I can't sense the pavement. I love the locked set-up! A word of caution though: you just might wonder why you're arms feel unusually tired and jittery during fast rocky descents. Check the fork if it's locked. UNLOCK IT! Climbing with the fork locked is beautiful. I can stand during a climb, tilt the bike left and right while pedaling up steep ramps and still feel "one" with the bike. Unlocked, I wasn't too confident when I pedaled while tilting the bike. I felt I had to exert more effort going up. Even with light gears, the fork's movement seemed to take a little energy from my pedaling. In general, the SID is great. BUT IMHO, it doesn't leave behind the Skareb Comp too far behind. With the price of the Skareb, and with the right settings, you get SID's performance minus the pop-lock. How can you go wrong with that? However, if you have the budget, SID is the answer: light but rigid, complicated but fully tuneable to your taste. And can I just say that it adds the right amount of “bling” on your rig?
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 27, 2006 13:23:20 GMT 8
Any reviews from Pike user?
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Post by forcebinder on May 27, 2006 13:37:40 GMT 8
04-05 Boxxers reviews pls!
about the pike...i got a chance to ride it for a while... very nice fork! has a long range of adjustability! the only problem is the U-turn adjustment! its made of rubber and will soon wear out! Hope rockshox will replace it with an aluminum one!
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Post by bongjumper on May 27, 2006 16:52:13 GMT 8
Any reviews from Pike user? Model : RS pike team and RS Pike Air Year: 2005 Price: HKD3,300.00 Bought from: Flying Ball HK Travel: 95 to 140mm for pike team / 140mm for Pike Air Length of use(abuse?): 3 months/ 3months Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Heckler Pros: Light weigth compare to other brand, remote pop lock is very useful and easy to use since it's installed in the handle bar, can adjust to different length of travel. 10mm longer travel compare to other brand. very active and flush... perfect for AM set-up... Cons: travel adjustment is very hard to rotate, you can not adjust it when your riding the bike. So need to stop to adjust it to shorter travel before your climb and stop again to adjust to longer travel before you descend...
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Post by warlock^_^ on May 27, 2006 18:23:33 GMT 8
Pike is more for All Mountain or Dirt Jumping. Really stiff. Quick release 20mm thru axle is really easy to use (easier even than regular QRs!). very tunable (compression, floodgate, rebound, travel) I like how the fork works when locked out also. it's not completely locked-out but rather still gives some play (depending on how you set the floodgate valve) whenever you hit an obstacle. cheaper than fox as well (around 22k for the Pike Race) check out mtbr.com na lang. good reviews on the Pike and Reba. looks like SRAM really did a good job turning around RockShox i think 2006 Pike models will not be coil anymore but air.
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Post by OnebyOne on May 27, 2006 19:10:24 GMT 8
Model : '03 RS SID race Price: HKD3,300.00 Bought from: Flying Ball HK Travel: 80mm Length of use(abuse?): 6mos Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Chameleon, in singlespeed mode. total bikes weights on 19lbs... Pros: Superlight at 1280gms only with 190mm steer tube lenght. + and - adjustment is quiet easy to adjust according to your weight. it can be very plush and harsh depending on your prefered setup. Mine setup with a little - pressure to make the fork less bob while stand up hammering the climbs... Cons: I don't really feel it's flexy as claimed on some MTBR reviews but I feel that this fork is so delicate when ridden hard, it will break...I guess I've just read all those negative reviews regarding this fork... I rate it with 4/5chili's for a specific use of XC racing or riding ONLY on smooth trails with less or no big bumps or jumps at all... Not recommended for those agressive and heavy trail riders...otherwise I'll give it 3/5 chili's on that application...
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Post by xctofi on Jun 13, 2006 4:23:13 GMT 8
Model : Reba SL 06 Price: 15K Bought from: Buknoy Travel: 85mm (internally adjustable to 100) Length of use(abuse?): 3 days Bike Setup: SRAM powered HT for pure XC Pros: Tunability,price,plushness,weight,32mm stiff stanchions Cons: unreliable manual and guides Tired the fork last sunday @ Maarat-Roxas AFP trails.this fork is definitely one bump eating machine.ate out all the rough stuff.there's infinite settings u can play around with.its really worth it.travel adjust aint that big of a factor for me.
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Post by Onie on Jun 13, 2006 7:59:34 GMT 8
Model : Reba SL 06 Price: 15K Bought from: Buknoy Travel: 85mm (internally adjustable to 100) Length of use(abuse?): 3 days Bike Setup: SRAM powered HT for pure XC Pros: Tunability,price,plushness,weight,32mm stiff stanchions Cons: unreliable manual and guides Tired the fork last sunday @ Maarat-Roxas AFP trails.this fork is definitely one bump eating machine.ate out all the rough stuff.there's infinite settings u can play around with.its really worth it.travel adjust aint that big of a factor for me. Finally! Lo and behold. You've joined the bandwagon... It's really a revolution... A complete revolution along its orbit, hehehe! Take you that long to somehow... But it's worth the wait, brad!?! Congrats!
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Post by soctrumbiker on Jul 22, 2006 5:55:54 GMT 8
Hello to all: I would like to ask are there any review or experience regarding J series fork? Thank's
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Post by kulot_salot on Jul 22, 2006 8:24:32 GMT 8
Hello to all: I would like to ask are there any review or experience regarding J series fork? Thank's i am currently using the rs judy tt fork... for beginner to novice... its a nice fork.... it doesnt have a lockout & other out-of-this-world adjustments & whatsoever... it just have the preload adjustment.... & its heavy.... what now? it's coming off! i need a lockout & that other out-of-this-world adjustments & whatsoever... im going for the reba or a sid... but dont get the wrong impression that its a bad fork... its a good fork! a great fork for the money! it was once the most heralded fork in the mtb world.... once.... ;D Model : ROCK SHOX JUDY TT Year: 2004 Price: PHP 6,450.00 Bought from: PAULINA'S (CARTIMAR) Travel: ??mm (?in) 80MM/3.149597IN Length of use(abuse?): 7 MONTHS Bike Setup: (STRICTLY) XC Pros: READ ABOVE Cons: READ ABOVE
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Post by soctrumbiker on Jul 23, 2006 0:32:38 GMT 8
Hello to all: I would like to ask are there any review or experience regarding J series fork? Thank's i am currently using the rs judy tt fork... for beginner to novice... its a nice fork.... it doesnt have a lockout & other out-of-this-world adjustments & whatsoever... it just have the preload adjustment.... & its heavy.... what now? it's coming off! i need a lockout & that other out-of-this-world adjustments & whatsoever... im going for the reba or a sid... but dont get the wrong impression that its a bad fork... its a good fork! a great fork for the money! it was once the most heralded fork in the mtb world.... once.... ;D Model : ROCK SHOX JUDY TT Year: 2004 Price: PHP 6,450.00 Bought from: PAULINA'S (CARTIMAR) Travel: ??mm (?in) 80MM/3.149597IN Length of use(abuse?): 7 MONTHS Bike Setup: (STRICTLY) XC Pros: READ ABOVE Cons: READ ABOVE Thanks for the nice info, I recently brought a SUNTOUR XCR fork (a little bit lighter than J2 from King's and it's all black). A friend of my, advice to go for J2 rock shox. Luckily, Jane (from kings) told I could swap the fork just add money. I am currently building my XC bike,which still not complete, mabigat sa bulsa kasi magbuo.Hopefully by the end of August my project will be completed. thanks and regards Chris T.
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Post by XP on Aug 7, 2006 11:56:03 GMT 8
A friend of my, advice to go for J2 rock shox. Luckily, Jane (from kings) told I could swap the fork just add money. I am currently building my XC bike,which still not complete, mabigat sa bulsa kasi magbuo.Hopefully by the end of August my project will be completed. thanks and regards Chris T. just talk to jane of kings bikeshop ..she said they dont trade ...i even ask if could add cash for the fork....?
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Post by soctrumbiker on Aug 16, 2006 4:01:53 GMT 8
A friend of my, advice to go for J2 rock shox. Luckily, Jane (from kings) told I could swap the fork just add money. I am currently building my XC bike,which still not complete, mabigat sa bulsa kasi magbuo.Hopefully by the end of August my project will be completed. thanks and regards Chris T. just talk to jane of kings bikeshop ..she said they dont trade ...i even ask if could add cash for the fork....? Hello XP: sorry for the late reply, Jane (kings) will approved if, 1) you buy the fork from kings 2) You haven't installed yet, no damage ,scratch or whatso ever. 3) keep the receipt, evidence that you brought that form kings. So maybe I mis quoted, I apologized. I brought a XCR fork, but after a week, I called meron silang bagong rock shock, sa ganda nang J1,j2,J3 at sales talk pati na rin si Jane, so binili ko ang J2, add money.. ayun di ba buo bike ko . Maganda daw ang XCR compare sa J2 (sabi nila)
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Post by XP on Aug 16, 2006 9:05:19 GMT 8
so far so good nagamit ko the j series of rock shox it performs well .....sulit...
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Post by soctrumbiker on Aug 18, 2006 21:22:25 GMT 8
My bike still not yet complete.
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Post by Superbad on Aug 20, 2006 22:10:32 GMT 8
Model : Reba SL 06 Price: 15K Bought from: Buknoy Travel: 85mm (internally adjustable to 100) Length of use(abuse?): 3 days Bike Setup: SRAM powered HT for pure XC Pros: Tunability,price,plushness,weight,32mm stiff stanchions Cons: unreliable manual and guides Tired the fork last sunday @ Maarat-Roxas AFP trails.this fork is definitely one bump eating machine.ate out all the rough stuff.there's infinite settings u can play around with.its really worth it.travel adjust aint that big of a factor for me. FafyTofi, please post a more detailed review, just like fafa brus' i'm tempted to go the way of the SID!
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Post by xctofi on Aug 21, 2006 7:17:22 GMT 8
here you go:
Tried out the REBA early this afternoon. Overall, there's not much difference compared to my Suntour XC PRO. Both are about as light and the travel is the same, 85mm.
My usual set-up for my fork's air is for a 200-pound Clyde. Thus, it's stiff and hardly bottoms out. BUT since REBA has a lock-out I can toggle on the fly, I opted for a softer set-up this time. It's plush but unlike zocchis (exr pro, my first fork), it feels like there's cotton inside the fork. A twist of the rebound adjuster's knob solves this. The difference between the Suntour and REBA with regard to rebound dampening is, with the REBA, a mild dial makes a whole LOT of difference. In fact, you'll feel the change with a quarter of a turn. With the Suntour, you're only given one whole turn and that's it. Come to think of it, REBA's half turn of the rebound adjuster probably equates to the Suntour's whole turn. Suntour's rebound adjuster just isn't as sensitive as the REBA. However, with the Suntour, I found that turning the rebound knob to the slowest setting is just right for me. As for the REBA, I'm still playing with the settings as I go along.
Ahh the pop-lock...
In addition to the popular credence that the pop-lock is advantageous during climbs, I found that rolling roads with light bumps (cement or asphalt) will benefit a rider with the lock. When locked, pedaling is more efficient, and acceleration can be felt once you push harder. I tried unlocking the fork while spinning on the road. I felt sluggish and it seems I can't sense the pavement. I love the locked set-up! A word of caution though: you just might wonder why you're arms feel unusually tired and jittery during fast rocky descents. Check the fork if it's locked. UNLOCK IT!
Climbing with the fork locked is beautiful. I can stand during a climb, tilt the bike left and right while pedaling up steep ramps and still feel "one" with the bike. Unlocked, I wasn't too confident when I pedaled while tilting the bike. I felt I had to exert more effort going up. Even with light gears, the fork's movement seemed to take a little energy from my pedaling.
In general, the REBA is great. BUT IMHO, it doesn't leave behind the Suntour too far behind. With the price of the Suntour, and with the right settings, you get REBA's performance minus the pop-lock. How can you go wrong with that? However, if you have the budget, REABA is the answer: light but rigid, complicated but fully tuneable to your taste. And can I just say that it adds the right amount of “bling” on your rig?
o diba,just like fafa bruce
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Post by Onie on Aug 23, 2006 6:58:21 GMT 8
FafyTofi, please post a more detailed review, just like fafa brus' i'm tempted to go the way of the SID! Here it is but with just a different kind of twist. Ride inspired!
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Post by Dragunov on Aug 26, 2006 15:51:13 GMT 8
late reviews on the tora: its a very good fork, i've used it for cross country, urban, trails, small jumps, and it never failed me, used it for about 6 months and i never have a maintenance check on it, u-turn travel adjust is very useful and very easy to use, the poplock remote lockout is one feature i would'nt ride without , its so useful, you can use it on sprints, climbs, just flick the switch and the fork is locked, the massive 32mm stanchions make this fork as stiff as hell, overall its the best bang for the buck, only downside is the weight, but its not the heaviest fork ive seen. too bad ive sold it along with my mongoose fireball
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Post by g.b.b on Aug 30, 2006 9:48:48 GMT 8
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Post by pazigrider on Aug 30, 2006 10:42:46 GMT 8
just for your info guys - the Revelation (4.9 out of 5; with 10 reviews) is one of the 3 forks in 2006 included in MTBR's Choice Award Winners the other 2 forks are the Fox Racing Shox Talas RLC (5 out of 5; with 7 reviews and Fox Racing Shox Vanilla RLC (5 out 5; with 9 reviews)
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Post by gosho on Sept 7, 2006 10:59:02 GMT 8
Hi, Iam going to get myself a RS Revelation and this would be my first suspension fork since my rigs setup is rigid. Before i buy this fork i just wanted to know if there is someone in this board that already tried this fork. I have not ridden a rig with suspension, therefore there is noway for me to compare. I am a newbie and I will not use this for Agressive XC but only for fire roads. TIA
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Post by pazigrider on Sept 7, 2006 11:10:33 GMT 8
yup - any recent reviews of the Revelation i'm just quite interested too in this fork
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Post by xctofi on Sept 7, 2006 11:36:04 GMT 8
Hi, Iam going to get myself a RS Revelation and this would be my first suspension fork since my rigs setup is rigid. Before i buy this fork i just wanted to know if there is someone in this board that already tried this fork. I have not ridden a rig with suspension, therefore there is noway for me to compare. I am a newbie and I will not use this for Agressive XC but only for fire roads. TIA it (revelation) might be too much. have you considered other lighter application/weight-wise models like the REBA etc? i think the REVELATION is designed for the more aggressive applications but its really one versatile fork. i think i saw one slapped on a giant XTC team HT here.
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Post by nhan on Sept 7, 2006 12:38:22 GMT 8
already canvassed the RS Revelation coz i'm also thinking to buy one (hopefully next year cguro.. dreaming mode)... the same price with Reba SL at Kings, also lightweight (3.77 lbs)... read some reviews on MTB mags said that it's almost the same with Reba... the difference is it has a longer travel and its an all-mountain fork... highly recommended at MTBR.com... FYI
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Post by gosho on Sept 7, 2006 13:34:09 GMT 8
Thanks Nhan, If this fork is highly recomended by MTB Bikers what could go wrong to a newbie like me. This will just confirm that it would be a fork for me. Thanks guys for your input
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Post by stormloader on Sept 9, 2006 3:18:10 GMT 8
here's my review for the Rockshox Tora 318 in mtbr.com mtbr.com/reviews/2006_front_shocks/product_125144.shtml (2nd most recent post) additional notes:The Tora, per RockShox's website, was originally classified under "adventure fork" instead of all-mountain. I suppose that would mean standard trail applications. Interestingly it is fitted in some AM built bikes including the much vaunted budget Santa Cruz Heckler D . In the revamped RS website, however, it is now classified as an XC fork (with the AM appellation thrown in for good measure) Personally I'd say the Tora is a consummate trail/AXC fork with all-mountain capabilities. I mainly use this in Mudspring and Los Banos trails presently. For the extreme end of AM go for the Pike and especially the Lyrik, for enduro-AM, go for the Revelation. For a slightly lighter incarnation go for the Recon. But for me this pork is more than enough coz it is the bees' knees and the cat's pajamas man. love it! SpecsTravel : U-Turn 85-130mm Weight: 2221 g (4.89 lbs) Spring: Coil Damping: Motion Control Damping Adjust: External Rebound, External Compressionand Lock, PopLoc Remote Option Lowers: Magnesium, IS Disc Mount, Boss Option Crown: Forged, Hollow 6061 T-6 Aluminum Steerer Tube: Steel Upper Tubes 32mm 4130 Tapered Wall Steel Price: less than 11k
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Post by Konan on Sept 15, 2006 14:37:04 GMT 8
Pike Race 05 user here a dont know if this fork is a Priest,coz Dang this Fork is Forgiving, it just smoothens out my Riding flaws. I hop around, drop a bit, run the rocks most of the time on or local trails Mhan this thing is Swayte! the Tuneability ( Compression/Floodgate : Travel Adjust ) are so useful. on my HT SC Chameleon i run my front with a Zoke Drop Off SC 05, on large Drops and Bumps, the Dampening of both the Zoke and the Pike are not that noticible, the diffrence is more pronouced when the Goin Gets Rough and Fast. The Zoke's "Jackhammerish" Feel on Fast Rocky trails are way less for the Pike, I have a better control on such types of Rides The only problem i have with this fork right now is that i cant release my Front wheel from the Maxle.
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Post by marcs on Sept 15, 2006 17:55:08 GMT 8
haha i like that one 'don't know if this is a priest, coz it's so forgiving' nice one. me i'm only appreciating the lock feature of the Pike when you feel like hammering on the trail. and you know what, even if you forget to unlock it going down, it won't punish you so bad as the floodgate will allow the fork to release the lock if the going gets rough.
as for the Maxle, could be due to dirt that's gotten into the hub. try spraying it with lube and lightly tapping it to get it out. clean the Maxle, and always lube it after a good wash. had that problem before, had to remove the read wheel to load it in my pick-up.
oh, for those planning to get, make sure you get the right spring (around 1,500 extra). i weight 200 lbs and had to get the extra firm one.
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