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Post by nhan on Oct 19, 2006 9:08:15 GMT 8
you're right sir bobet, honestly i don't want to abuse my HT on heavy trails, because most of the simple trails we ride before becomes technical as time passes. since my HT already weighs 30lb and no plan to upgrade it, i'll try to build my FS rig to weigh less than my HT or just like your NRS. If its ok sir, kindly PM me the specs of your NRS so that i can use it as reference to the parts that i'll acquire in the process. Big thanks for the assistance and providing your expertise on these matters...
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Post by radical1962 on Oct 19, 2006 11:05:04 GMT 8
you're right sir bobet, honestly i don't want to abuse my HT on heavy trails, because most of the simple trails we ride before becomes technical as time passes. since my HT already weighs 30lb and no plan to upgrade it, i'll try to build my FS rig to weigh less than my HT or just like your NRS. If its ok sir, kindly PM me the specs of your NRS so that i can use it as reference to the parts that i'll acquire in the process. Big thanks for the assistance and providing your expertise on these matters... Nhan, The set-up is XT gruppo with FSA V-Drive (external BB) Crank and Avid BB7 Disc brakes and levers. The cockpit is Truvativ Team Straight bars, Truvativ XR Stem, Thompson Seatpost (orig) with Velo Ttitanium saddle. Pedals are XTR. It's the wheelset and the fork that makes the biggest difference in the weight. I'm using American Classic MTB350 wheelset with IRC Serac 1.95 tires and Rockshox SID Team with remote lockout. It weighs 26-27lbs. It could be lighter but I have to spend more money on the cockpit to go carbon but I'm too kuripot for that. Good luck on your set-up!
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Post by radical1962 on Oct 19, 2006 11:11:51 GMT 8
started on an entry-level HT, still using a (more trail-ready) HT after half year of mt. biking. i guess i'll develop the indian first before upgrading the pana (right bobet?) but honestly i am always dreaming of an FS bike and what it's purported XC riding comfort has to offer. once the indian and the pocket is ready, i'll go FS (ano nga ba yun nhan?.......ah okay ANTHEM pala, now i remember) Arci, I'm also dreaming about upgrading the NRS to an Anthem Team ... ganda kasi nung colors and perfect for my silver SID Team fork. The problem is that I cannot rationalize it since the NRS is so perfectly serving my needs. Still thinking about it ... Nhan, May offer ka ba sa NRS ko? Let me know, I might want to let it go IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!!
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Post by xctofi on Oct 19, 2006 11:24:37 GMT 8
started on an entry-level HT, still using a (more trail-ready) HT after half year of mt. biking. i guess i'll develop the indian first before upgrading the pana (right bobet?) but honestly i am always dreaming of an FS bike and what it's purported XC riding comfort has to offer. once the indian and the pocket is ready, i'll go FS (ano nga ba yun nhan?.......ah okay ANTHEM pala, now i remember) Arci, I'm also dreaming about upgrading the NRS to an Anthem Team ... ganda kasi nung colors and perfect for my silver SID Team fork. The problem is that I cannot rationalize it since the NRS is so perfectly serving my needs. Still thinking about it ... Nhan, May offer ka ba sa NRS ko? Let me know, I might want to let it go IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!! and with that being out in the open,i know of someone who wants to sell his small Anthem team in almost brand spankin new condish ;D
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Post by mountguitars on Oct 19, 2006 12:20:30 GMT 8
Arci, I'm also dreaming about upgrading the NRS to an Anthem Team ... ganda kasi nung colors and perfect for my silver SID Team fork. The problem is that I cannot rationalize it since the NRS is so perfectly serving my needs. Still thinking about it ... its either i feel the same way or i dont have money to burn, hehehe. ;D but kidding aside, the NRS does the trick. the anthem just looks so gorgeous and sexy and looks less complicated (suspension), hehe.
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Post by Onie on Oct 19, 2006 12:38:19 GMT 8
Throw your heart over the fence and the rest will follow. - Russian proverb(?) But... always not forget to do your homework first, Get the facts first. You can distort them later. - Mark Twain ;D
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Post by nhan on Oct 19, 2006 13:10:37 GMT 8
Hmmmmm... a very tempting offer, based on inputs, both NRS and Anthem performs well with the correct setup, sir PM me the price that you want and lets see if its ok (Baka kasi pag ako nagbigay ng figure definitely mababa... hehe)
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xfire
All-Mountain Rider
ride on
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Post by xfire on Oct 20, 2006 22:21:34 GMT 8
just finished assembling the my first FS today. surprisingly, its 26.08 lbs. my HT is 26.11 lbs. hmmm....something's wrong here. HT has to go on diet
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Post by sonnydgr8t on Oct 30, 2006 12:45:36 GMT 8
bravo..
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Post by XP on Nov 15, 2006 10:23:31 GMT 8
congrats
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Post by pazigrider on Nov 15, 2006 12:28:58 GMT 8
just finished assembling the my first FS today. surprisingly, its 26.08 lbs. my HT is 26.11 lbs. hmmm....something's wrong here. HT has to go on diet wow - new FS bike how about the rider - what's the weight - no need to diet ba? ;D - just kidding pls share a pic of your new FS bike brad. xfire - for us too see and appreciate
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Post by Lui-G on Nov 15, 2006 13:28:54 GMT 8
sir pazigrider, i believe sir xfire's bike was posted at the bikes gallery...go check it, so wonderful!
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Post by emeraldsignar on Jan 24, 2007 17:31:29 GMT 8
i've tried my friend's trek fuel and it beats the hell out of my merida tfs 500 ht outfitted with deore xt group...so,this year i'm buying myself a giant maestro...these new full sus babies ride like hardtails..course a bit heavier but the comfort is light years ahead...
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Daimler
Free Rider
carpe diem, baby...
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Post by Daimler on Feb 26, 2007 14:56:33 GMT 8
i don't see myself converting to FS... first of all, FS frames are way more expensive compared to HTs (well, the you kinda pay for some bling factor)... second, my group do XC most of the time... on the average, 4 hours of pedaling... and too much suspension feels quite sluggish most especially on the road.
i have front suspension though, in case we get into a rough terrain. but soon, i might shift to rigid front suspension. need to lose the weight on the fork para gumaan ng konti.
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Post by nhan on Feb 26, 2007 15:35:47 GMT 8
i don't see myself converting to FS... first of all, FS frames are way more expensive compared to HTs (well, the you kinda pay for some bling factor)... Merida has their FS frames almost the same price with the Giant XTC HT frames... don't know the model name yet but i've seen one yesterday with its stock air rear shock, i think its suntour... FYI
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Post by yukon on Feb 26, 2007 15:43:42 GMT 8
i don't see myself converting to FS... first of all, FS frames are way more expensive compared to HTs (well, the you kinda pay for some bling factor)... second, my group do XC most of the time... on the average, 4 hours of pedaling... and too much suspension feels quite sluggish most especially on the road. i have front suspension though, in case we get into a rough terrain. but soon, i might shift to rigid front suspension. need to lose the weight on the fork para gumaan ng konti. i said that a year ago that i dont see myself migrating to an FS bike ;D ;D ;D. but after careful study and trying out nhan's bike for a few seconds...i had a change of heart. Yes, you can do XC with FS bikes without the wasted energy from pedal bobs. it's just getting the right frame for your ride discipline. and yes, there is the cost factor that's really gonna hurt. Look at me, I'm still undone with my project..but its getting there, hopefully. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Ben Dover on Feb 26, 2007 16:42:44 GMT 8
for me, whatever will make you happy...but its not that simple...i myself would love to have a FS bike but i cannot afford to maintain two bikes (at least for now) and i am the type of guy who put bike upgrades last on the list of priorities...so for me its the balance of mostly two things, 1.) the type of rider that i am 2.) my financial capability.
i'm definitely not an aggressive rider, i do race occassionally but i dont have much money...that said, HT is the best ticket...you can achieve weight reduction upgrades much easier and with lesser cost with a ht...ht frames dont change much and stay almost within the classic design lines...a 5 year old frame dont look much different from current models. FS on the other hand, with all those mumbo jumbo suspension ek ek will look dated for sure after 3 years or so..i had a FS once..it performed very well at first but after almost a year it started having chain suck..i solved the problem with a HT.
i am happy.
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Post by Dragunov on Feb 26, 2007 19:11:42 GMT 8
hardtails for uphills, fs for downhills ;D
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baTutABS
All-Mountain Rider
Work smaRRt, not hard!!!
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Post by baTutABS on Feb 26, 2007 19:23:53 GMT 8
still HT for me, no budget for FS hehe...
i'm happy with my HT's ;D
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mythbuster
XC Rider
The Self Proclaimed-Wrecking Crew
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Post by mythbuster on Apr 11, 2007 15:34:35 GMT 8
HT for speed, FS for comfort, can't compare really.
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Post by magixuser on May 6, 2007 1:21:20 GMT 8
If you select an HT just choose a good front suspension. Preferably with a 32mm stanchions so less flex and you dont need to worry selecting good track lines. Also a front suspension which doesn't bottom-out. You hit a hole and your fork bottoms-out at 20kph = endo.
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Post by bernie on May 24, 2007 15:49:27 GMT 8
FS = nice on the butt and hips, just like in a sofa hahahahha
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Post by pazigrider on May 24, 2007 16:54:32 GMT 8
i have an HT as well as an FS recently though my FS is heavier than my HT - i'm after the ride comfort on the trails though - so i would say that overall - i like the FS also, my confidence level increased with my FS but if we're going to sierra madre or bugarin (long road ride) - i would surely use my HT and perhaps to the very challenging trails that i've never been to yet - perhaps i'll use an HT so for me - i would always maintain 1 HT and 1 FS
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Post by randiezbee on May 24, 2007 17:56:23 GMT 8
sir roel i havent seen that FS
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Post by randiezbee on May 24, 2007 17:58:05 GMT 8
if you want more comfort on trails go for FS.
but i agree with sir pazigrider... it will really depend on your riding style (road or trails)
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Post by Taba® on Jun 4, 2007 17:23:55 GMT 8
if you want more comfort on trails go for FS. but i agree with sir pazigrider... it will really depend on your riding style (road or trails) Yeah, for me it depends on the trail. I have both FS and HT bikes and whenever we ride, I normally check the condition of the trail by asking my co riders. Simple flat trails with sometimes roads, I go for HT but for bumpy rides, I go for FS.
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Post by pazigrider on Jun 8, 2007 13:07:26 GMT 8
sir roel i havent seen that FS you should see my FS now randy before it's FS - For Sale
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Post by anshwa on Jun 28, 2007 4:23:08 GMT 8
It all depends on the type of riding you're doing & your budget for the rig. However, you are better off getting a well-spec'ed HT than a not-so-well-spec'ed FS. With bike prices going down in relation to the quality of components from years ago, there are tons of HT's that have top-end components. And if you're building, same principle applies as HT frames are way more inexpensive than FS frame.
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jimbo
Newbie
enjoy the ride. life is about the journey not the destination...
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Post by jimbo on Jun 28, 2007 13:04:57 GMT 8
i agree with you anshwa. mtbiking is 90 rider and 10% bike.
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Post by angelobryant on Aug 24, 2007 16:07:59 GMT 8
i agree with you anshwa. mtbiking is 90 rider and 10% bike. +1 on this
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