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Post by fullspeed on Dec 8, 2004 14:34:13 GMT 8
Mga Ate at Kuya - I have been using shimano M cables and noticed that my front brake is smoother to press than the rear..kasi mahaba ang cable sa likod so more friction? Also read posts and reviews that good cables or housings can make ur mechanical brakes feel as smooth as hydros - true? Is there any "real" difference on the braking power/performance if you use expensive after market cable housings? If possible, please share or recommend brands and prices kung alam nyo
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Post by maxbuwaya on Dec 8, 2004 15:03:24 GMT 8
kosa
Am using both Avid Mecha disc on both bikes one is JAGWIRE equipped the other is M SHITMANO cable, just like yours. May difference dude! mas maganda ang performance ng JAGWIRE. Why? I dont Know maybe because its much expensive. hehehehe
You can try MOB housing, teflon coated daw. Or the flakjack cable and housing set. Very expensice nga lang. And I think you have to buy threeset kasi pang Vbrake lang yata ang lenght.
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Post by warlock^_^ on Dec 8, 2004 15:07:00 GMT 8
Mga Ate at Kuya - I have been using shimano M cables and noticed that my front brake is smoother to press than the rear..kasi mahaba ang cable sa likod so more friction? Also read posts and reviews that good cables or housings can make ur mechanical brakes feel as smooth as hydros - true? Is there any "real" difference on the braking power/performance if you use expensive after market cable housings? If possible, please share or recommend brands and prices kung alam nyo Kuya, its true...you can make your mech brake as nearly as smooth as the hydro...face it it can never be like the hydros. You can run a full housing on your brakes means no cable stops which cause friction and route the housing strainght & smooth as possible, ignore the factory suggested routing if it will force you to use "S bend". Full housing may seal your cable also from slop, ooze, muck, grit and goo (ewwww!) Expensive aftermarket cables like Avid Flakjacket have teflon coating ( I guess), and its better sealed from grits, mud & grime which it the major cause of your friction. Housing is made of Kevlar mesh which is lighter, and said to be more flexible. remind me of sending my CV to SRAM soon ;D
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Post by gulliver on Dec 8, 2004 18:34:01 GMT 8
i've used only shimano Msystem cable housings ever since i bought my first MTB last year, and really can't complain. a few people have tried my Avid mech brakes and well, thought they were pretty easy to pull but have tried pulling a few hydros (juicy 5, xtr) and yup, those things are verrrry smooth...hmmm ;D
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Post by sworksmike on Dec 9, 2004 0:17:40 GMT 8
Remember nung nagkita tayo sa newton sir gulli tuloy mo na yun! ;D
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Post by warlock^_^ on Dec 9, 2004 7:29:33 GMT 8
Remember nung nagkita tayo sa newton sir gulli tuloy mo na yun! ;D Huli ka Ted! Hydros is in the drawing board pala ha... wla pang Juicy 7 si John (Extreme) For Brake Housing content: For high end aftermarket brake housings, there Avid Flak Jacket, Full Metal Jacket which is recommended for Avid Mechs, Jagwire which Max is using, and the ultimate bling the NOKON www.nokon.com/NokonUSA_Home.htm
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Post by fullspeed on Dec 9, 2004 10:34:41 GMT 8
Max, Warlock etc. - YUn Jagwire ba housing lang? Teka nag diversify na pala sila ha akala ko pantalon lang ginagawa nila...
Paano pala ang bilihan ng mag cable housings? Housing lang? Per meter? Per yard? or pre-cut na?
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Post by warlock^_^ on Dec 9, 2004 10:54:20 GMT 8
Max, Warlock etc. - YUn Jagwire ba housing lang? Teka nag diversify na pala sila ha akala ko pantalon lang ginagawa nila... Paano pala ang bilihan ng mag cable housings? Housing lang? Per meter? Per yard? or pre-cut na? Hehe pantalon ha, I guess pede housing lang Kuya, since they can be bought na cable only (no housing). Mas mura daw kumpara sa Avid Flak Jacket pero same material (Kevlar). Have to check MaxB about the price per length.
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Post by fullspeed on Dec 10, 2004 13:34:36 GMT 8
Warlock - thanks idol! Ill go to cartimar or Quiapo soon para mag inquire ng prices
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Post by maxbuwaya on Dec 10, 2004 22:10:28 GMT 8
dude yung sa MOB hiwalay ang bilihan ng pabalat. I think bibili ka pa din ng mga bakal sa dulo
Try to feel the difference sa cable compared with shimano M and jagwire. ibang iba!
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Post by fullspeed on Dec 11, 2004 8:20:17 GMT 8
Pareng Max - magkakano yan jagwire na yan? At san nabibili ng mura? Pabili na lang ako sa yo para wholesale price hehehe ;D
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Post by weenie on Dec 19, 2004 21:13:52 GMT 8
I use plain shimano housing but I grease the cable before installing
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Post by maxbuwaya on Dec 19, 2004 22:09:43 GMT 8
Pareng Max - magkakano yan jagwire na yan? At san nabibili ng mura? Pabili na lang ako sa yo para wholesale price hehehe ;D kosa kasama na yung jagwire noong inangkat ko siay kay aling cristys sa cartimar
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Post by woofers on Dec 20, 2004 2:08:06 GMT 8
kosa kasama na yung jagwire noong inangkat ko siay kay aling cristys sa cartimar But Mang Jun of Cristy's does not recommend Jagwire housing. He said the housing is too stiff.
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Post by Poseur on Dec 20, 2004 8:45:37 GMT 8
i think greasing your cable before inserting into the housing is an old techniqu that shouldn't be use anymore. it just helps dirt and dust to accumulate inside. i just leave it as is... or spray it w/ liquid silicone spray. or get some jagwire but the teflon coated version. run the housing from start to finish to minimize entry p0ints for the dirt and dust.
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Post by fierari on Dec 21, 2004 14:27:56 GMT 8
Pareng Max - magkakano yan jagwire na yan? At san nabibili ng mura? Pabili na lang ako sa yo para wholesale price hehehe ;D hmmmmmmm bat nga kaya pag si max whole sale ang price kakaba ang karisma ata ng taong ito lol
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Post by fullspeed on Jan 6, 2005 9:51:12 GMT 8
Guys nakabili na ako kay Paulinas ng housing P45/meter MOB ang brand, teflon coated daw. Kinabit ko with Avid cables and smooth na smooth na By the way, nabasa ko sa box nya do not put grease or oil daw...
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Post by warlock^_^ on Jan 6, 2005 15:58:51 GMT 8
Fullspeed, yan din kinabit ng powerbikes sa bike ko, yan lang din kasi casing nila. Full housing ang ginawa ko sa bike ko, yung ke Elai, nde nila ako sinunod Next time na lang yun. Sabi preho daw manufacturer ng Jagwire & MOB.
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Post by coolangot ☺ on May 15, 2005 14:52:54 GMT 8
can this be used in shifter cables too?
my mall bike's shifter and brake cables are exposed. YUng ibang parts are having some friction sa Frame. I'm thinking if i should have them installed in a housing. Or ibang klase ito?
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Post by maxbuwaya on May 15, 2005 19:57:03 GMT 8
yes
kulangot
It can also be use for shifters
also dont forget to put cable housing ends and cable ends
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Post by cobym on May 20, 2005 4:23:24 GMT 8
I also used MOB housing on my mechs before. Ran it full length for the rear brake. Was not happy with the drag. The stock no-name housing was better. Maybe because ako lang ang nag-cut and nagkabit ng ferrules. Or maybe my brake cable was too thick ? Anyway, made the shift to hydros, so I'm a happy camper.
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Post by ygolote on May 20, 2005 10:43:45 GMT 8
i have had a similar problem to what cobym posted earlier. i used a full length teflon coated housing for my rear mechanicals. problem is i had to use a shimano cable. it dragged. the cable suitable for the housing is 1.6mm while shimano cables are 1.7mm.
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Post by gabe1215 on May 20, 2005 13:29:42 GMT 8
i bought this alligator cable housing. non compression housing. its compatible with both break and shifter cable. its a little bit heavy and stiff but breaking is smooth.
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Post by staind on May 20, 2005 13:40:51 GMT 8
i bought this alligator cable housing. non compression housing. its compatible with both break and shifter cable. its a little bit heavy and stiff but breaking is smooth. u got the super fortress as well? only have the der. set. should've bought the brake set as well but it's too darn expensive!!
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Post by cobym on May 20, 2005 16:24:02 GMT 8
the cable suitable for the housing is 1.6mm while shimano cables are 1.7mm. Ahh. that may be the reason for my initial problem also.
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Post by gulliver on May 21, 2005 8:00:37 GMT 8
if you stick w/ cable brakes, change them every 2 years. 1 year if you go through a lot of dirt, mud or water.
last month, my brakes got really hard to squeeze and when Efren opened them, not only was the front cable too long (causing excessive drag) but they were also dirty and rusty. so i changed and my brakes felt good as new!
at only 70 pesos per cable (housing and wire), that's a cheap maintenance job :-)
of course, with hydros you don't have this problem hehehe
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Post by alien_scream on May 21, 2005 8:32:29 GMT 8
if you stick w/ cable brakes, change them every 2 years. 1 year if you go through a lot of dirt, mud or water. last month, my brakes got really hard to squeeze and when Efren opened them, not only was the front cable too long (causing excessive drag) but they were also dirty and rusty. so i changed and my brakes felt good as new! at only 70 pesos per cable (housing and wire), that's a cheap maintenance job :-) of course, with hydros you don't have this problem hehehe but you have to bleed them yearly!!!!!!!!
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Post by Patrick on May 22, 2005 16:40:02 GMT 8
Guys, how do you put continous cable housing for bikes with downpull front derraleur?
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Post by jrjrjr on May 22, 2005 16:42:48 GMT 8
Guys, how do you put continous cable housing for bikes with downpull front derraleur? you cant
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Post by Patrick on May 22, 2005 20:56:04 GMT 8
hehe i guess thats impossible... Would anybody know if Kings sells MOB cable housing and how much?
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