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Post by dayuhan on Feb 1, 2006 18:11:40 GMT 8
Just uploaded a bunch of river shots to photobucket. I know a lot of people here like to see pictures of parts of the Philippine outdoors that not so many people know about, and since white water is one of the best kept secrets in the country... Vince Ruddy on the upper Morong, Bataan... Martijn Van der Wel on the Bagsit, Zambales... Me on the Bagsit... Me on the Kanan, Quezon Province... Martijn on the Kanan... Playspot on the Kalewa, somewhere in Rizal or Quezon... Me on a little river whose name I forgot, Quezon... Chip Childers takes a pourover on the Tucucan-Anabel run, Chico River... Me on the same Chico run... Raft about to get hammered on the lower Chico... Chip on the Happao river, Ifugao... Matijn on the Happao, big water day... What can I say... it's fun. Different kind of fun from a bike, but same kind of rush. Like really hairy downhill, but... well, wetter!
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Post by dayuhan on Feb 1, 2006 18:13:47 GMT 8
Wow, they came out huge... sorry about that!
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Post by ungas on Feb 2, 2006 3:37:49 GMT 8
its scary like downhilling. a lot cheaper though. i didnt know these places exist. its a shame you know about the country more than i do. and im pinoy enjoy!!!
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Post by janix on Feb 2, 2006 7:00:44 GMT 8
whoah!!!!! that was fun!!!!
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Post by basti on Feb 2, 2006 7:56:42 GMT 8
wow! adrenaline rush! thanks sir for sharing to us...
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Post by BrusKO on Feb 2, 2006 9:21:07 GMT 8
parang imported!!!!
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Post by 'Bee' on Feb 2, 2006 9:31:14 GMT 8
Wow! I should've grabbed the opportunity to try it when we were honeymooning in Cagayan De Oro years ago. Nice shots!
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Post by mountguitars on Feb 2, 2006 18:39:51 GMT 8
nice pics, great views and what a thrilling ride. if i only knew how to swim, hmmm..........
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 3, 2006 10:11:26 GMT 8
aaah, i wish i have that courage to go into the water
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Post by jakob on Feb 3, 2006 10:32:57 GMT 8
Wow! I wanted to try out the rafting here in the Phils too.
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Post by anji on Feb 3, 2006 22:13:22 GMT 8
ei dayuhan, nice pics u got der brad. it's a thrilling if not frightening. maybe its like DH specially on sections were there is fast and furious waters and sometimes u can get 5 to 10 foot drops. meron ba ganioto d2. saw somethin like it on ripleys were this guy jumped maybe 20 feet or more can't remember nose down from a waterfall ...
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Post by dayuhan on Feb 6, 2006 19:52:28 GMT 8
The world record for vertical drop in a kayak is over 100 feet. That's pretty sick, and for most people pretty stupid: if you land flat on any drop over 15-20 feet compression fracture of the spine is high probability. The biggest vertical drop I've done is about 15 feet, on a fall a few km downstream from Daraitan, in Tanay.
The best raft trip in the Philippines is on the Chico, in Kalinga, from Tinglayan to Tomiangan. Not cheap, though. They also have some inflatable kayaks that are really user-friendly. There is lots of really good beginner water around, it's just that equipment is so hard to get...
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Post by allegra on Feb 7, 2006 12:21:28 GMT 8
Hi Dayuhan, Ever tried to island hop on a kayak?
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Post by whoopi on Feb 8, 2006 14:57:17 GMT 8
wow thrilling pics, DAYUHAN! but huge slippery rocks terrify me i hear they can do island hopping via kayak in coron, ALLEGRA.
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Post by allegra on Feb 9, 2006 10:14:32 GMT 8
Parang terrifying yata to be in the open sea on a kayak the movie "deep Blue" (?)has a lasting impression hehe
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Post by dayuhan on Feb 10, 2006 20:55:52 GMT 8
Island hopping is on a sea kayak, a totally different animal from a river kayak. River boat is short, very maneuverable, and way too slow to use on flat open water. Sea kayak is long and slim for speed, made to go fast in a straight line.
The Philippines is an amazing place for both, sayyang lang there is so little equipment around. Coron island is a great place to paddle, going around takes 3 days, camping along the way. Once you get away from the side facing Busuanga you feel a million miles from anywhere, and the cliffs are amazing. Met some Tagbanua there, they were really curious about the boats, let them paddle and they ended up taking us back to their village. Great experience. Siargao is incredible, Caramoan, north side of Bohol... got a vague plan to try to bring boats to Becovian cove, north of Palanan, this year, almost like a fjord.
Too many things to do...
Island-hopping can be hard if the islands aren't close together. Paddling along a coast is easy (though you have to stay well away from shore if there's much swell), but open water crossings, especially in windy or choppy water, are no joke. You are so low to the water that you can easily lose sight of land even at fairly short distances.
Like a lot of other things, it's huge fun if you know your limits and stay within them, but if you bite off more than you can chew, you can choke on it!
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Post by allegra on Feb 10, 2006 22:14:33 GMT 8
Wow, sounds fun So the kayaks you see at sportng goods shops are no good? the ones that are used by hotels and beach resorts?
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Post by dayuhan on Feb 10, 2006 22:45:19 GMT 8
The sit-on-top plastic kayaks that you see at resorts are good beach toys, and ok for short-hop paddling. You wouldn't want to try to go any kind of distance on them. They are very slow, don't glide well (meaning when you stop paddling, they stop moving) and it takes a hell of a lot of work to make them go anywhere. Some of the tour outfits in Coron town use them; they put them on a banca, ride over to Coron, and let people work along the coast. It's a good time, but they are very limited. Kinda the mall bikes of the kayak world.
I've seen some river kayaks in shops, under the "FeelFree" brand, which I've never heard of. They don't look very impressive. My main worry whenever I see them is that somebody is going to buy one, try to run a river without basic skills, and get hurt or killed. Before you can take a sit-in river kayak (cockpit with a neoprene skirt seal) in a rapid, you have to learn to capsize and roll it back up.
I know a guy who owns a company that makes really high quality rafts and inflatable kayaks. Inflatables are great for learning white water, they are stable, you bounce off stuff, and no need to roll. Been trying to get him to bring some boats in.
What's irritating is that in the US you can buy river kayaks, old designs but totally servicable, second hand for $200-$300. Here there aren't any, no way to get them here!
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Post by whoopi on Feb 14, 2006 10:54:20 GMT 8
very useful and interesting info, DAYUHAN, thanks!
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Post by kulot_salot on Jun 6, 2006 8:35:15 GMT 8
ahhh, bagsit river!!!! the best!!!! is that the pantingan river in morong, bataan? did you guys did an overnight there? if yes... did you hear moans of american & japanese war ghosts? just kidding man.... ahh, chico river, sarap... went there in 2003 but did not do the river, just the rocks... hurra for multi-discipline outdoor sportsmen!!!!
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Post by nadette on Jun 6, 2006 9:43:21 GMT 8
wow!nice!
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Post by duldog on Oct 5, 2006 9:36:01 GMT 8
what a rush!!!
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Post by bbe13 on Oct 12, 2006 16:58:07 GMT 8
great shots!! i have tried the CDO beginners white water ride and it was really awesome!! local groups have to really go all out to promote the sport since we have nice rapids in the country.
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Post by uphiller on Oct 12, 2006 15:32:55 GMT 8
nice river rush! great pix guys bravo !!!
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Post by oceanrider88 on May 26, 2007 9:00:15 GMT 8
Interesting. Where can we try that? Any Kayak camps here. Used to surf - miss the thrill - just found the surfing beaches too far from home. Are there any nearby rivers that you can do that in? By nearby, i meant less than 3 hours away. Is that a fiberglass kayak? with foam core i presume?
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Post by maxbuwaya on May 26, 2007 10:41:27 GMT 8
so how do you guys take pictures?
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Post by dayuhan on May 26, 2007 10:52:53 GMT 8
I use a waterproof Pentax film camera... looking to buy the Olympus waterproof digital, but somehow bike parts always seem to get priority!
Pretty much have to get shots by pulling over to the bank, getting out, and shooting a chosen spot. A kayak is not a great Photo platform.
The river kayaks are plastic, roto-molded polyethylene. Fiberglass would break. No real core, you put flotation bags inside. The good sea kayaks are fiberglass, which is lighter and more rigid, but also more fragile than plastic.
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Post by hance on May 26, 2007 13:48:46 GMT 8
Nice pics sir. Wow, these two pics look very much like Daraitan during the wet season.
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Post by Bushido on May 26, 2007 15:32:32 GMT 8
the guy on the photo - second from last , looks like argel, and the rudder man on the raft looks like anton.
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