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Post by Ben Dover on Mar 31, 2008 23:10:43 GMT 8
and you know better? get a grip of reality kid. and you do? did i say that?
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Post by knobbyist on Mar 31, 2008 23:14:45 GMT 8
@dragunov oh ok. haven't ridden la mesa eco trail yet. didn't think it'd be that nice... now i know. thanks man. on topic: oh and... yeah skinning animals is bad.
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Post by Dragunov on Mar 31, 2008 23:32:07 GMT 8
Believe me if we chose compassion we'd die of hunger. Even brocolli's scream when they are ripped from the ground die of hunger? not necessarily. there's this argument that if we stopped feeding grain to animals to turn it into meat, we'd free up grain we could directly feed to people. well that's just one argument. brocolli scream? from the book being vegan it says that plants dont have a brain or central nervous system. therefore they lack the fundamental mechanisms to experience pleasure pain or suffering. there. hope that helps clear things up. lastly, i'm not trying to impose my beliefs on you guys. if inadvertently it appeared that way then i apologize. if any of you guys choose to try to give up meat for any amount of time that'd be great. if not that'd still be cool. keep it posi! hmm..nervous system LOL! ;D in the wild animals kill animals govegan. what are you gonna do about it? stop the birds from killing the bettles and worms? stop the lions from killing savagely an antelope? etc etc. some peeps here argue that we're not supposed to eat rice because man cannot eat it raw...thats the basis...you have to cook it first to make it acceptable to the stomach..its not natural...however, we have natural enzymes to digest raw meat..malinaw ba yun? honestly, you wont even be here with your vegies if not for your hunter-gatherer ancestors. hehehe, guys guys guys!wana play airsoft? no animals or veggies involved just humans ;D ;D ;D and yes, skinless dog or cat is yucky
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katipzrider
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Post by katipzrider on Apr 1, 2008 0:41:53 GMT 8
OMFG! this is so so cruel! i cant stand watching it because i own 2 dachshunds! i really hate it when i see dead cats also being run over by merciless motorists and see them dried up and flat as well!
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Post by govegan on Apr 1, 2008 7:31:54 GMT 8
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hmm..nervous system LOL! ;D
in the wild animals kill animals govegan. what are you gonna do about it? stop the birds from killing the bettles and worms? stop the lions from killing savagely an antelope? etc etc.
some peeps here argue that we're not supposed to eat rice because man cannot eat it raw...thats the basis...you have to cook it first to make it acceptable to the stomach..its not natural...however, we have natural enzymes to digest raw meat..malinaw ba yun?
honestly, you wont even be here with your veggies if not for your hunter-gatherer ancestors.[/quote]
i never said that animals stop killing other animals for food. the difference with animals and humyns is that we have a choice and they don't. if you decide to continue eating raw/cooked meat that is your choice. and good luck with that. still posi!!!
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NeLo
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Post by NeLo on Apr 1, 2008 9:49:39 GMT 8
what a cruelty to those animals... didn't finished the video...
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ten
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Post by ten on Apr 1, 2008 11:11:59 GMT 8
this is how the our world goes
to feed the rich,
savage the poor,
abuse the environment and its creatures big and small
but remember God is good all the time...
Lets pray for them
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Post by Alphabolt on Apr 1, 2008 11:43:37 GMT 8
however, i'm convinced too that Jesus Christ himself walked this earth on leather sandals. maybe jc didn't know better.stay posi! Not a great thing to say in this country of Christians ...nor in this forum that s why you got that reaction . Ben Dover s reaction is same as most of ours with what you said keep it real and be considerate
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xfire
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Post by xfire on Apr 1, 2008 12:24:40 GMT 8
If animal control is the issue, there should be a humane way of doing it.
I have a Rott and a Golden.
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Post by BrusKO on Apr 1, 2008 22:05:50 GMT 8
Are vegan chicks sexier than meat eating ones?
Also, who's fart is deadlier- a vegan's or that of a meat eater?
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Post by Dragunov on Apr 1, 2008 22:36:01 GMT 8
Are vegan chicks sexier than meat eating ones? Also, who's fart is deadlier- a vegan's or that of a meat eater? i think vegan chicks have no nervous system ;D ;D ;D
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trance03
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Post by trance03 on Apr 1, 2008 22:39:40 GMT 8
meat eating chicks?vegan chicks,vegas chicks and.....meat eating men. i've heard such stories from the confused boy during metro night rides... skinning animals alive is really bad taste.chicks on skins na lang mas ok pa.
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 2, 2008 0:07:24 GMT 8
i never said that animals stop killing other animals for food. the difference with animals and humyns is that we have a choice and they don't. if you decide to continue eating raw/cooked meat that is your choice. and good luck with that. still posi!!! sige try telling that to various eskimo tribes and to other groups of people living in the deserts, tundras and other God "forsaken" areas. i suggest you think first before calling anyone a murderer or insane for killing an animal for food. i came from an animal loving family...i own several pets myself...i denounce cruelty to animals as much as the others here but i don't fool myself and others as well. let me add...personally, i think what you are professing might be the greatest danger to animals ever...remember, you always neglect what you don't need...if you cant eat or use it and it consumes resources then its a competition for your survival...what will happen to the animals then? you treat them like annoying mosquitoes without any use to you...think about it.
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Post by govegan on Apr 2, 2008 11:39:30 GMT 8
i never said that animals stop killing other animals for food. the difference with animals and humyns is that we have a choice and they don't. if you decide to continue eating raw/cooked meat that is your choice. and good luck with that. still posi!!! sige try telling that to various eskimo tribes and to other groups of people living in the deserts, tundras and other God "forsaken" areas. i suggest you think first before calling anyone a murderer or insane for killing an animal for food. i never called anyone murderer. and i will never call you or anyone else murderer just for eating meat. all i said was no sane person should be caught dead wearing fur. as for the eskimos and other groups living in "god forsaken" areas maybe given a "choice" they too could adopt a vegetarian diet. which is what all i suggested in the first place.
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Post by Ben Dover on Apr 2, 2008 14:11:54 GMT 8
i must have mistaken this thread for some other thread where there is a mention of "murder"...its a song or something...and for that i apologize. don't get me wrong govegan, fellow pmtbr , i love listening and learning from people...for whatever they would like to say...and i also like the people who stand up for something even if its against my own personal belief and ideals, people who stand up for an idea no matter how unpopular it is...so please don't get the idea that i was trying to shut govegan up...i just want to make it clear here. you see i wear leather shoes,belt etc... eat meat and use products of animal origin..so are all the members of my family...my wife prolly uses more coz she uses lipstick, etc...me, occasionally lang LOL ;D...what prolly irked me was the labeling of this and that for people like me..we don't share the same view and lets just respect that...the way i see it, education is the best ticket for you guys to spread the idea that you believe in..not the use of harsh words. just my 2 cents.
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Post by sire_andre on Apr 2, 2008 14:23:50 GMT 8
oh my...i heard that story...hmmmnnn it's really bad to do cruel things to animals..
@ wandie1024
i know we do feel sad if we saw dead road kill cats but thing is do you know that they kill 1% of our local birds population? for me stray cats and dogs must be in a sheltered and find them a responsible owner but worst comes to worst they must be put to sleep to balance things up.
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Post by govegan on Apr 3, 2008 6:29:30 GMT 8
i must have mistaken this thread for some other thread where there is a mention of "murder"...its a song or something...and for that i apologize. don't get me wrong govegan, fellow pmtbr , i love listening and learning from people...for whatever they would like to say...and i also like the people who stand up for something even if its against my own personal belief and ideals, people who stand up for an idea no matter how unpopular it is...so please don't get the idea that i was trying to shut govegan up...i just want to make it clear here. you see i wear leather shoes,belt etc... eat meat and use products of animal origin..so are all the members of my family...my wife prolly uses more coz she uses lipstick, etc...me, occasionally lang LOL ;D...what prolly irked me was the labeling of this and that for people like me..we don't share the same view and lets just respect that...the way i see it, education is the best ticket for you guys to spread the idea that you believed in..not the use of harsh words. just my 2 cents. never for a second did i feel nor think that you were trying to shut me up. in a free marketplace of ideas, people having different views is not only natural but also healthy. we were just trying to explain one's beliefs to one another. and if in the process harsh words were used, my bad. now, have i convince you to give up meat even fro a meal? nah. just kidding.
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