mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Nov 5, 2007 14:12:40 GMT 8
The MMDA and the TMG enforces now the Banning of the super White/Blue Headlights in MM and or throughout the country for the simple reason that this might cause accident on the road, self explenatory-nakakasilaw na nakakainis sa kasalubong.
So if you have one in your car, time to reinstall it like me, i remember namura ako ng kasalubong ko, well I tested it myself and true, nakakainis nga.
As of this time, I removed it and install the default lite of my old kakarag karag na car.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Nov 5, 2007 14:56:51 GMT 8
Most HIDs are set up a little high by the installer
This would give the buyer the thinking that their purchase made a difference;D
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Post by kulot_salot on Nov 5, 2007 15:21:07 GMT 8
kasi naman... if you replace your 'very ordinary' halogen lamps.... ...replace also the reflectors... meaning the whole headlight assembly... your HID's will only work like that 7series BMW if you replace the whole bunch... not just the lamps... you're asking for trouble talaga if you use HIDs with that stock halogen reflectors... using the halogen reflectors will spread that HID beam, not focus it...
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Nov 5, 2007 15:50:08 GMT 8
I think, this law is an old law, it's only the implementation that refreshes. Just like the seatbelt laws. But they said that some new model cars has this white bulbs as the default likes, so this will be an issue again. Lots of debates will occur on this for sure, but have to follow the law.
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Post by bernie on Nov 7, 2007 22:01:56 GMT 8
Very old yet the implemention is invisible.
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Post by mambuking on Nov 7, 2007 22:02:35 GMT 8
i'm not against the use of bright white lights on HID's. number one is because they're designed for safety purposes. and lets admit it, the implementation of this law would be useless because of a lot of things. for one they wont be able to notice what's right and what's wrong with the lights. there's this thing on our headlights that gives more light on the right hand side, or the the pedestrian side, of course designed to give better vision of pedestrians. so if one should use a headlight reflector that came from a right hand drive car, dito sa pinas, they would be blinding the oncoming traffic. this most common on taxi cabs. another common mistake on HID's, on early versions of the HID's, they were i think H3 or H1 types, here they tried to fit it to an H4 reflector or housing and in turn scatter that light instead of just beaming it to the ground. this gives no help to the driver and pain to incoming traffic. but nowadays almost all types of HID's are available, this would mean it would now be beneficial to the owner and not just bling! theres so much more that i would like to share about the light problem regarding our vehicles, but you guys might get bored. BTW - i dont sell HID's hehehe
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Nov 7, 2007 23:54:54 GMT 8
I think this is just @#$%! The government should focus on much needed regulations like busting those d@mn vehicles with no tail/head lights at all which I see everyday!!! They keep making new laws wherein the old laws are not even acted upon. It seems their just into catching the "fad" of people for them to be able to make more money.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Nov 9, 2007 12:10:43 GMT 8
I think this is just @#$%! The government should focus on much needed regulations like busting those d@mn vehicles with no tail/head lights at all which I see everyday!!! They keep making new laws wherein the old laws are not even acted upon. It seems their just into catching the "fad" of people for them to be able to make more money. Its easy to understand this. Most people without tail light -- Cant afford big buck bribery. Thats why they cant even afford a bulb for the tailight. People with HID= Big bucks!! If you observe our road, PUV and dilapidated cars most of the time gets away with trafficc violation. Take for example Macapagal Blue Wave, Trafficc Enforcers sets up their trap at the area where Private Vehicles pass but on the other side which is clealry visible to them, Rampant ang mga EDSA buses in beating the redlight
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Nov 9, 2007 12:35:58 GMT 8
@max
true! maybe that's why I seldom get flagged down, maybe for the ff. reasons:
-I don't have the money for kotong/bribe looking vehicle -I look like a cop car -My pick up looks like a transformer member that can stand up and beat the hell out of the mmda
;D ;D ;D
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Nov 12, 2007 8:19:09 GMT 8
The bright white light is good only on dry roads, but have you noticed that if you're on a wet black asphalt it seems there is no light, that's the reason why the old fog lights uses yellow/orange bulbs.
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Nov 16, 2007 5:55:21 GMT 8
any updates on this? so what will they do if they flag you? get your license? confiscate the hid's? peanalty?
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olrac
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Post by olrac on Nov 16, 2007 22:17:49 GMT 8
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Nov 17, 2007 3:33:26 GMT 8
Whoa! That's what I call head lights!!!
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rednose
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Post by rednose on Nov 27, 2007 22:42:20 GMT 8
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Post by warlock^_^ on Nov 30, 2007 12:45:14 GMT 8
Interesting find rednose... enlightening.
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Post by shublig2004 on Dec 18, 2007 10:12:55 GMT 8
I almost upgraded my Headlights to HID good thing that i read this thread medyo malabo nga ang HID sa asphalt kapag umuulan
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Post by paulbaguio on Jan 14, 2008 19:53:34 GMT 8
And its not good when raining. White light bounces of fog or rain, so its hard to see through. What you are just going to see clearly are the rain drops because your white light reflects back to you. I used to drive in Loakan road on a foggy night. I also wantedto get hold of the "white light" I cant even see a meter from my bumper with the fog! its as though I have white curtains in front of me. Using yellow light will penetrate through. Halogen lamps have that yellowish color so it can penetrate through.
1 Point for safety.
Notice why lamp post are halogen and more importantly yellow light? yellow light passes through or penetrates through fog, smoke or rain. smoke, fog or rain cannot reflect the light back to you. notice in your neighborhood with a flourescent lamp on a lamp or electric post and then you've witnessed smoke all over new year's eve from fire crackers? notice how the smoke will engulf or virtually cover the flourescent lamp to half visibility? if you are in a neighborhood with yellow lighted lamp posts, notice how you can still see the light and lamp amids the smoke coming from firecrackers?
2 points for safety versus HID (kuno)
As discussed in the thread, yes, HID installers/car shop will install you HID (kuno bulbs) on your non-projector type headlight housing just to make bucks out of you. The headlight housing is originally designed for halogen lamps. changing it to HID will have difference in reflection of light, thus the light will look scattered and approaching vehicles will think your dumb enough to put your lights up, so they'll up their lights as well. If its a car too low, he will be be blinded, worse, he might have a head on collision with you and you think he's dumb enough not to see you approach. of course he sees you approaching! you just blinded him!
3 points for safety.
If you must or really wanted to have an HID kit, you have to at least have halogen/yellow lights for your fog lights. this will help in during rainy days or a night trip up to Baguio.
I would rather increase my halogen lamps' intensity or illumination with the addition of ballast kits than change to HID or white lights.
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Julia
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Post by Julia on May 15, 2008 18:55:35 GMT 8
I think the problem are not the HIDs... its the street lights. They are not enough... most streets here in the metro are madilim so when an HID flashes the street, nakakasilaw talaga... Somehow, The yellow street light (like the one installed at Macapagal) saturates the light... so when a car with HID passes, not too bright... just enough. In my everyday life, i am being shout at... bad mouthed at night by crazy inosente people because of my HID... BMW, Volvo, MB...HID are OE diba... Maybe jaymz's right... maybe the deflector... or maybe wrong choice of car... i'll get a Volvo instead! ;D ;D ;D Hahaha!!! I still think, this banning of HID or super white lights is hell crazy!
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Post by arcireyes on May 15, 2008 19:06:29 GMT 8
dura lex sed lex (trans:the law is hard, but it is the law)
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Post by bm5er on May 15, 2008 19:22:42 GMT 8
There are proper HID bulbs called D2R for non-projector reflectors - and this will not be a bad thing, because it is the proper install. The problem is installing the wrong HID called D2S bulb for non-projector reflectors. People will naturally like this "wrong" install as it will appear brighter but blinding. The OEM HID for most Euro cars are rated 4500k only, still yellowish-white. The rated 6000k bulbs are bluish-white, and beyond 6000k will have a violet-whitish hue. The 4500k is a good compromise, a little brighter on clear nights, and workable during rainy nights. Our next problem is whether the implementors of the new law know the difference between D2R and D2S on reflector or projector headlamps.... ??
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Post by kulot_salot on May 15, 2008 19:22:45 GMT 8
BMW, Volvo, MB...HID are OE diba... Maybe jaymz's right... maybe the deflector... or maybe wrong choice of car... i'll get a Volvo instead! ;D ;D ;D Hahaha!!! no, julia. your HID on your car is fine because it's designed with its reflector... the after-market HID bulbs that have the same interface with that of the halogen is the problem. pa-hitch ha... ;D
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olrac
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Post by olrac on May 15, 2008 21:37:04 GMT 8
4500k HID for me is good for all season. 6000k above HID are too common now. glass deflector headlight or "bubog" make a HID bulb almost useless. first they throw the glare unevenly in the road, second its not so bright at all, it doesn't maximize the potential of HID bulbs. at least have a crystallized headlight then install and aim it properly but the best way is retrofit your headlight to projector type.
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