manitou
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Post by manitou on Oct 21, 2007 17:59:58 GMT 8
What are the pros and cons of each type for single speed? now that suspension forks have lock outs, isnt it like a rigid already?
How does a suspension fork affect the climbing ability of a ss?
any other thoughts?
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Post by king on Oct 21, 2007 18:28:45 GMT 8
the advantages or disadvantages would be the same for a geared or single speed bike.
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Post by 32by18 on Oct 21, 2007 20:04:01 GMT 8
most obvious advantage of a rigid fork, vis-a-vis any suspension fork: less weight. I think King summarized it the best
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Post by cherrybomber on Oct 21, 2007 21:28:25 GMT 8
lol! what he said.
that goes for:
Price Comfort challenge weight dependability
lets not forget bragging rights!
having said that i took Tita hard tail up upak trail and man what a difference a little suspension up front makes hehehe..
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Post by flipnidaho on Oct 21, 2007 21:53:04 GMT 8
i rode a fully rigid hardtail SS for the first 12 years of SS'ing... I don't think I'll ever be going back to a rigid fork... It was light (17 lbs for the bike) but it sure wasn't comfortable...
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bobby
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Post by bobby on Oct 22, 2007 1:23:36 GMT 8
A rigid fork is light in weight and in the budget, and it is simple, some single speedsters opted for this set up because of the simplicity of the bike.
I have read in some mtb magazines that some pros still race with rigid forks, it is a matter of preference.
A suspension fork is heavier, correct me if i am wrong an american fork manufacturer rated their suspension fork in the 1.5kgs bracket that would be the lightest they may have to offer, but how much? It relieves the rider the stress on the shoulders and arms. And makes big air a softer landing.
Bottomline is its all in the rider when you are younger, experienced, well trained, well feed, well sponsored, no mountain is tough, practice and climatize thin air is difficult for the lungs.
How did those guys climb EVEREST in a bike? Maybe they made the SHERPAS carry it for them.
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Post by king on Oct 22, 2007 8:05:46 GMT 8
um.. no one's climbed everest on a bike. just until basecamp i think.
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Post by glockbiker on Oct 22, 2007 14:20:13 GMT 8
I guess having a suspension fork with a thumb actuated lockout would be the best compromise. Lock it out during ascents for efficiency, release it when you bomb the rough stuff downhill. I'll trade the complexity, weight and added cost of a suspension fork for its benefits- comfort, braking effciiency, etc.
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Post by Patrick on Oct 22, 2007 19:56:21 GMT 8
You guys forgot to mention that a bike with a rigid fork rides/handles a lot differently than a bike with front suspension, much like a hardtail differ from a full suspension.
At first it will be a pain in the wrists as you cross over to a full rigid bike. Landing on your front tire first will kill your wrists ie bunnyhop to front etc.
Later on when you get used to the handling when you can land on the front tire like peanuts.
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Post by sup on Oct 22, 2007 21:05:15 GMT 8
patrick, how long does your fork last? is it aluminum or chromo? tia!
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Post by [ eRECTUS ] on Nov 6, 2007 1:30:28 GMT 8
Well said guys! What wonderful tips has been posted here! ;D
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manitou
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Post by manitou on Nov 22, 2007 13:43:48 GMT 8
Great tips, here is another topic. Flat bar or riser bar? assume a HT frame with either a rigid or suspension fork.
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schwinng
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Post by schwinng on Nov 23, 2007 4:11:24 GMT 8
wide riser bars. When you have long ascents like we have here in SoCal, you tend to stand a lot and pull.
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Post by OnebyOne on Nov 23, 2007 8:09:52 GMT 8
Rigid or suspension? rigid for sure as you'll standing a lot Flat or riser bar? the answer is Mary bar Cheers
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Post by king on Nov 23, 2007 9:35:15 GMT 8
i like flat bars because i like the bars lower for climbing, but i would like a wider one like this..
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jmlag
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Post by jmlag on Nov 23, 2007 10:35:18 GMT 8
i like flat bars because i like the bars lower for climbing, but i would like a wider one like this.. What is that?!! 4 feet long???!!!
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Post by king on Nov 23, 2007 11:03:12 GMT 8
haha! 660mm or around 26" and in carbon fiber. edmund had one in the shop once, but it was something like P5k, waaaay too expensive for my budget
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Post by flipnidaho on Nov 23, 2007 12:34:28 GMT 8
they also make the same bar in aluminum. syntace also makes a 700mm bar with 12 degree sweep and half inch rise for $25 online (about 250 grams though)...
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Nov 23, 2007 13:42:58 GMT 8
Rigid for me... mary bar, ok! But has anyone here has riden a mustache handlebar like this one? Me want try this. or this one Rigid or suspension? rigid for sure as you'll standing a lot Flat or riser bar? the answer is Mary bar Cheers
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Post by OnebyOne on Nov 23, 2007 13:43:11 GMT 8
I prefer flat bars for my race bike too... Actually just got a Syntace Duraflite 31.8 carbon that weighs only 125.41gr. only(claimed at 122gr) Interestingly, this bar is longer(620mm) than most flat bars(580mm) and has a backsweep of 9° that feels like you're using a zero-rise riser bar...I got it cheap too syntace.at/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=1496just thought sharing this one...
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Post by Patrick on Nov 23, 2007 13:54:10 GMT 8
patrick, how long does your fork last? is it aluminum or chromo? tia! Sorry for the late reply, mine last 3-4 months at a time
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Post by king on Nov 23, 2007 13:55:45 GMT 8
620 sounds like a nice length.
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Post by Patrick on Nov 23, 2007 13:58:30 GMT 8
Is that a long horn?
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Ka Verong
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Post by Ka Verong on Nov 23, 2007 14:13:57 GMT 8
the pix is a Nitto Swept Back Alloy Bar width is 485mm width quite narrow for mtb. I'm looking for a similar design that is wider. Is that a long horn?
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jmlag
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Post by jmlag on Nov 23, 2007 16:44:48 GMT 8
they also make the same bar in aluminum. syntace also makes a 700mm bar with 12 degree sweep and half inch rise for $25 online (about 250 grams though)... You might be able to generate lift with a bar that wide........
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Post by sup on Nov 23, 2007 17:59:39 GMT 8
i also want a mustache bar! ka verong, check out soma fabrications, they have cheaper versions of that (availability lang ang problema). also from soma fabrications, noah's ark (something like the torsion bar of surly).
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Post by baboinsky on Nov 23, 2007 18:18:59 GMT 8
i also want a mustache bar! ka verong, check out soma fabrications, they have cheaper versions of that (availability lang ang problema). also from soma fabrications, noah's ark (something like the torsion bar of surly). Allan, Check this out. www.vandesselsports.com/accessories.phpA friend is coming home from jersey on Jan 3. We can ask him to bring in one if you want.
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Makoy
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Post by Makoy on Nov 24, 2007 0:40:41 GMT 8
daily road commuter > rigid
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Post by skarhed on Nov 24, 2007 10:58:10 GMT 8
Speaking or rigid forks... Bringin these babies in... hopefully by next month... full cromo and suspension corrected!
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Post by Patrick on Nov 25, 2007 21:30:51 GMT 8
how much Ef? Any price range available/
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