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Post by marcs on Feb 8, 2006 12:13:08 GMT 8
Check out this article on professionaly having a bike fit. I'm sure a lot of us continue to tinker with our bikes, trying to find that right fit that would lessena pain here or there. I realize also that an inch or mm here or there sometimes makes a big difference in overall performance and comfort. With that, is there any such service being offered here in the Philippines? Most bike shops simply estimate your bike size and I think let you do the rest. www.thebikinghub.com/mtb/benefits-of-pro-bike-fits/Cost There is no beating around the bush here. Professional bicycle fits are not cheap. Costs range from $25 for basic saddle positioning, to $150 for a more detailed fit, to $450 and up for 3+ hours of laser alignment, video analysis and the trained eye of the best in the business. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? That’s for you to determine for yourself.
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Post by king on Feb 8, 2006 14:19:06 GMT 8
there is actually. you can contact toots chua who does it through bikefitting.com. i think he schedules all the fittings every wednesday at Joven. cost is P1000 for 3 fits (road, mountain & time tiral/triathlon), or P850 for just one fitting (so you might as well have all three done just in case). you can reach him at through email at tootschua@pldtdsl.net or through his celfone +63 (918) 922-2124.
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Post by marcs on Feb 8, 2006 14:25:37 GMT 8
King thanks! Might drop by one of these days.
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Post by woofers on Feb 10, 2006 19:33:44 GMT 8
Or you could measure yourself and plug the numbers into one of the many online fit calculators, (e.g. Wrench Science).
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Post by lucban on Feb 11, 2006 15:03:30 GMT 8
Or you could measure yourself and plug the numbers into one of the many online fit calculators, (e.g. Wrench Science). Woofer is correct.But actual professional fit is still the best.This really help a lot and save you a lot of money .
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Post by freelancer on Feb 17, 2006 21:23:38 GMT 8
nice tips guys! thanks!
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Post by pjax on May 26, 2006 17:56:06 GMT 8
this is a very good tip! everyone should know this! especially the wrenchscience thing
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Post by boyok on Jul 14, 2006 8:44:36 GMT 8
Members living in the south can check out Toots Chua's bike fit equipment at Cycling Zone. It's been there since 2 months ago. Call up Toots. Or you can contact Jingo or EZ of Cycling Zone at 809-6736 if you're interested
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Post by grnhrnt on Jul 14, 2006 10:18:48 GMT 8
Perhaps a testimonial would be the best convincer. Here's mine. Boyok is next. Since I availed of Toot's bike fit services, (check out at , my perrenial anterior knee problem has disappeared. I do not have neckpains anymore inspite of the fact that my handlebars were lowered and my stem lenght increased. I feel my pedalling has greatly improved and my legs are much stronger and tire less. He has this contraption wherein you body parts are measured and simulator bike where he applies the correct measurements and you immediately feel the difference. In my case, my body position was moved forward to balance the bike and attain the correct plumbline (relationship of my saddle to the bottom bracket) based on the dimensions of my body. of course the saddle height ,stem length, handlebar height, bike frame size, the crank arm length, and even cleat positioning on your shoes! At 1st it seems awkward but w/in the 1st ride I already felt the benefits. I was able to climb sta rosa hills faster & was less tired. Had to get used to forward positioning though during the downhill part. Toot's charges only 1K for this bike fit service. He will give you 3 bike fits, you can choose from road ( triathlon, criterium, sport and race set up) and mtb (sport & race ) I think there were others pa. Since I have both a road and a mountain bike I chose the sport road set up, mtb sport & race set up. its the best 1k i've spent on bike related expenses. Oh and my only comment is, he leaves the actual re-fitting of your bike to you. he will just supply you w/ a print out of how you should "fit your bike". But come to think of it. the re-fitting can take time and some bucks because you probably have the wrong sized stem or post. I highly recommend this service though to all who take biking seriously. Seriously enough to not get hurt and be biking for a long time!
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Post by marcs on Jul 14, 2006 10:46:01 GMT 8
grnhrnt, thanks for the feedback. it's amazing how a few mms here and a few mms there would have a dramatic impact on your biking experience. I remember in an article where Liam was doing professional fitting service all that was changed was his bike cleats by a couple of mms, and it resulted in a straighter back!
hmmm, 1k for 3 fits? road and mtb? sayang naman kung mtb lang. dapat may road din ako . . . .hehe
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Post by grnhrnt on Jul 14, 2006 11:08:16 GMT 8
marcs ( that's scram backwards... hehehe),
Do it! you won't regret it you can have the road print out also so when you do get a road bike you'll know exactly what frame size and componet sizes you'll have to get.
Call Cycling Zone ( 8096736) look for EZ or Jingo to make you appt. Its been backed up for weeks.
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Post by Superbad on Jul 14, 2006 12:48:43 GMT 8
ramon,
thanks for your testimonial. i'll get a bike fit as soon as i get back. marco, sabay tayo!
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Post by xctofi on Jul 14, 2006 13:02:20 GMT 8
im hesitant in getting bike fitted coz if i find out that im not using the right sized stem,seat post or frame,then i'll have restless nights,stressed and will have that intolerable itch of upgrading.haaaay....it only means one thing - gastos! well,for me,as long as you get the most comfortable setup/feel on your bike you will grow into it.you feel ok after using it over and over again and you feel integrated to the bike.
but definitely to get the proper setup,its a good option to get bike fitted.
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Post by marcs on Jul 14, 2006 13:57:40 GMT 8
wrong stem, ok pa. wrong seatpost, ok pa. pero wrong frame? fatay but I think it's just the stem and seatpots that you will need to change unless the framesize is really wrong for you. I think most bikeshops should really incorporate this a more methodical bike fitting approach. usually it's just based on height. if you're 'vital statistics' is average then maybe it's fine but otherwise you'd end up tinkering and tinkering with your setup.
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Post by allegra on Jul 14, 2006 14:00:59 GMT 8
anyone know the differnce in fit ng mtb and road? Y sila different kaya? Let's make pasyal kila Jingo
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Post by marcs on Jul 14, 2006 14:17:21 GMT 8
maybe coz you have to have more room in an MTB to bounce around? more standover height also needed for MTB? vs Road where aerodynamics is da name op da game?
ewan ko lang ah. sirit na.
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Post by grnhrnt on Jul 14, 2006 17:18:50 GMT 8
Tofi,
When it came to my mtb I didn't feel any pains and was quite comfortable actually. I was racing on it. But i was not in the optimum postion as far as the balance of the bike and pedaling efficiency. So I did have to change my seatpost from a set back to straight and lengthen my stem by 10 mm. Now i'm postioned more over my pedals so i'm not wasting any energy while pedalling plus I have better control because i've achieved the 60-40% weight balance, its suppose to be 60 % rear and 40% front. This way your shocks work better and has something to do w/ steering.
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Post by Alphabolt on Jul 14, 2006 23:50:06 GMT 8
Ramon, Sounds really good. Can Toots factor in some ...ummm..back problems line mine ? I m sure to have that fitting might help
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Post by xctofi on Jul 15, 2006 7:05:47 GMT 8
Thanks sir Ramon.the 60/40 weight balance seems to be very logical. this applies to both HT and FS bikes right?
now,what does it mean when u say "postioned more over my pedals"?
TIA
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Post by boyok on Jul 15, 2006 13:12:57 GMT 8
If you can save 1 grand, guys, spend it on the bike fit. It'll improve your biking a lot. After a major semplang at Maarat sometime last year, I lowered my seatpost. Since then, I've grown accustomed to the position. Little did I know that it was very inefficient. After getting bike fitted, I was told by Toots that my seatpost height was off by as much as 50 mm. After correcting it, i've experienced significant improvements in terms of the smoothness of pedaling as well as -- despite the initial quirky feel -- the overall comfort in my biking position. The downside lang is that i had to get a new seatpost. Swerte coz it was only the seatpost that had to be replaced. Plug in ko na rin, the black Thomson 30.9x367mm setback seatpost is still up for sale: P3k na lang
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Post by grnhrnt on Jul 21, 2006 11:02:33 GMT 8
Tofi,
sorry for late reply. I meant to say that my saddle was moved forward. I happen to have a body of a monkey, short legs, long torso & long arms. My thighs are the culpit to my short legs so I was positioned more forward so when i pedalled my legs are at the optimum position to push down on the pedals.
:-P
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Post by xctofi on Jul 21, 2006 15:35:31 GMT 8
thanks much sir Ramon! i guess there's no other way of knowing other than taking that bike fit session w/ Toots.
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Post by pjax on Jul 23, 2006 16:43:41 GMT 8
i was about to enlist in toot's service, but my colleague stopped me. "lalaki ka pa eh". thinking that i would (probably) grow some more. should i wait until i stop growing? although i think i stopped growing (at 19yo)
ps: i don't want to grow older than 19
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Post by joes on Jul 23, 2006 18:14:56 GMT 8
wonder if toot's adjustments could increase my bunny hop atleast 6 inches.
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Post by allegra on Jul 23, 2006 18:30:46 GMT 8
i was about to enlist in toot's service, but my colleague stopped me. "lalaki ka pa eh". thinking that i would (probably) grow some more. should i wait until i stop growing? although i think i stopped growing (at 19yo) ps: i don't want to grow older than 19 your 19 and your still growing?? are you sure??
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Post by pjax on Jul 23, 2006 18:59:24 GMT 8
i hope. that's what they want to believe. but yeah i don't think another inch of height is possible
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Post by xctofi on Jul 23, 2006 20:35:49 GMT 8
well i know for a fact that men don't stop growing.for most its not that noticable since its just a centimeter or two a year. Rik Smits of the Indiana Pacers grew an inch when he was 30 something i think. hope its the same for the other male part.nyeheheheh
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Post by allegra on Jul 23, 2006 22:13:04 GMT 8
Yeah but rik smits is what .... 7 feet tall? But this is new to me akala ko 16 you stop growing I've never grown a centimeter since then Ask a doctor to be sure My bet is yur safe to get fitted now
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