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Post by aud182 on Feb 9, 2018 2:13:15 GMT 8
Hi, I am newbie, I already have a bike actually. But a month after acquiring it and gaining more than 30kms to it, I have visited local bike shops here in Davao that I didn't knew existed before I bought mine. So here's my dilemma, not that I don't like my bike. Its a beginner's bike, 29er, hard tail. A cheap one too not costing more than 20k. (I understand its not the cost, hold your horses down) Now I see other types and brand of bikes that I can maybe afford of greater quality. Hard Tail or Full Suspension. (Norco, Merida etc) So far I only do city riding, I wasn't very active in facebook so I haven't found riding buddies or groups yet. Its only a matter of time and few nods on the street before I'll get acquainted with them. And soon my city riding will escalate to trail rides/hikes or whatever we call it. So now I am leaning on getting another bike. Should I get one or upgrade mine? Cost wise. Hard tail or full suspension? For city riding most of the time and sometimes trail. Probably twice a week on average. Thank you for your feedback/response on this masters. Mond : I apologize if there's an existing thread of the same concern, I haven't gone through everything yet on the site, but everything else has been educational for beginners like me. Kudos!
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Post by spyghost on Feb 9, 2018 5:56:06 GMT 8
if i may ask what’s your bike atm and why the change considering you ride streets more?
in such cases i suggest you stick to what you have atm since as you’ve mention you ride more on the road.
get acquainted with where you ride and how you ride. that will tell you what you need next.
do consider that bikes nowadays offer more than what most can do. what i mean is most people don't exceed the limits of their bike unless of course it's an unfortunately incident.
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Post by icemann77 on Feb 9, 2018 9:05:59 GMT 8
aud182, first welcome sa forums. now if taga davao ka bisdak ka ba bai? hehe taga souther mindanao pud ko. i grew up in Marbel South Cotabato. now in your kind of riding, i suggest mag Hard Tail ka lang muna. kasi dehins mo rin maximize ang full-sus kung dehins ka parati sa trail. you can never go wrong sa hardtail as your beginner bike. :-)
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Post by jrocket803 on Feb 9, 2018 9:19:57 GMT 8
I have a different take on this ..... when i was just starting out, i did a lot of testing trying out different types of bike, from hard tail to full sus to folding bikes different brands, heck i had 10 bikes in a span of just 1 year, If i dont like how it rides i sell them, then buy and try another bike and the vicious cycle repeats 😁. i know its not cost effective but that was my “addiction” during those times, but it taught me a lot about bike componentry, suspensions, troubleshooting and ofcourse where to get good deal on bike parts😁.......Until i finally found a perfect fit for me, up to now im still riding that same bike its been 5years now. You see for me the bike is my motivation to go out and ride, a nice bike will always motivate you to ride (or maybe its just me😁).
So yeah, you go and look for your bike soulmate 😁
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Post by 18650 on Feb 9, 2018 11:03:58 GMT 8
get a city bike for city rides. your 29'er hard tail is OK for light trails and since it costs ~20k it should be quite decent. but if you really want to have fun on the trails and go fast on descends you need to have a full-suspension bike. even a "short" travel 100mm XC full-sus is already a huge improvement over a hardtail in terms of keeping your tires planted, for stability and control. not to mention comfort. a hardtail just feels very sketchy when going fast. but of course if you're not gonna be riding trails there's no need to get full-sus
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Post by pinoyoutdoorsman on Feb 9, 2018 11:36:40 GMT 8
You already have a hardtail which is already enough for your city riding and light trails. Keep it. If you have the money then get a full suspension bike. It will motivate you to try all mountain trails and enduro. You will come to appreciate having two bikes with different geometries hahaha
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Post by anthrax76 on Feb 10, 2018 0:17:18 GMT 8
here's my take also, know your riding style and learn from your current rig.
i started with a rigid, learned bike handling, learned how to shift, brake, pedal, drop, climb, coast, draft and other bike riding skills. i also learned something even more valuable, how to maintain and do both on the field and home repair. it's one thing to change your flat tire at home and another to change it while it's dark and/or wet. i read and learned emerging bike technologies.
after 3 years i assembled faux DH bike. a year later a short travel xc bike. after 3 more years a 4 inch xc bike. then i had had a hardtail. i never kept more than 3 bikes at any given time. now i still have the hardtail but for the first time, i have a stock AM rig.
bottom line: maintain 2 rigs of different riding disciplines. have one for training, one for fun.
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Post by 661 on Feb 13, 2018 15:18:10 GMT 8
I first bought my hardtail back in 2014 (Trek X-Caliber 8). All street use. Really have no time to visit a trail near me. So, I had fun on the road - jumping on speed bumps wherever I could find it, 1-2 ft drops, stairs and drafting at 52km/h behind a UV express van. I call it hitching a ride, lol. I'm still working on my wheelies, manual and bunny hop. I'm getting there . With all these abuses, the bike remained intact, LOL. Well, a little bit. I tacoed my front wheel, gouged my front headset area with a chain barrier (didn't see it) and I have to change my crank which dropped on the ground. lol. However, I started to "outgrow" my bike and I needed something more. So, last month, I bought my first enduro bike. The Santa Cruz Nomad 4 Carbon was my first choice. But, e.t. phone home, look at the price tag. LOL! I can't demolish this bike for crying out loud. I would baby it or maybe display it in my living room, lmao! I needed something less painful. Something I could trash. So, I bought a Giant Reign 2, 2018. My first full suspension rig. When I first tried to pedal it at my maximum speed, bobbing from side to side, d@mn, I kind of went "clumsy" and lost my balance. I didn't know it was so slack. It took me about an hour to adjust to the new geometry. I was still nervous jumping it on the speed bump. A couple of weeks fast forward, this is the best ride ever. This bike is so comfortable to ride on. My jumps are getting higher and higher and my confidence is up. Going down the stairs at faster speeds is a breeze. So soft, so plush, so kind on my buttt. No more ouch ouch ouch. dammit. lol. I feel it's easier to hop and wheelie than the hardtail. As for uphill, no difference felt compared to my hardtail though. And, I just love playing with the dropper post. lol! Anyway, I hope this would help you decide on which bike you want and what you want to do with it. For a simple city commuting or ride ride around the neighborhood, a hardtail is more than enough. A full enduru rig is just too much bike. Unless, you want to do some stunts and aggressive riding, go full enduro.
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Post by anarki on Feb 13, 2018 19:23:15 GMT 8
I first bought my hardtail back in 2014 (Trek X-Caliber 8). All street use. Really have no time to visit a trail near me. So, I had fun on the road - jumping on speed bumps wherever I could find it, 1-2 ft drops, stairs and drafting at 52km/h behind a UV express van. I call it hitching a ride, lol. I'm still working on my wheelies, manual and bunny hop. I'm getting there . With all these abuses, the bike remained intact, LOL. Well, a little bit. I tacoed my front wheel, gouged my front headset area with a chain barrier (didn't see it) and I have to change my crank which dropped on the ground. lol. However, I started to "outgrow" my bike and I needed something more. So, last month, I bought my first enduro bike. The Santa Cruz Nomad 4 Carbon was my first choice. But, e.t. phone home, look at the price tag. LOL! I can't demolish this bike for crying out loud. I would baby it or maybe display it in my living room, lmao! I needed something less painful. Something I could trash. So, I bought a Giant Reign 2, 2018. My first full suspension rig. When I first tried to pedal it at my maximum speed, bobbing from side to side, d@mn, I kind of went "clumsy" and lost my balance. I didn't know it was so slack. It took me about an hour to adjust to the new geometry. I was still nervous jumping it on the speed bump. A couple of weeks fast forward, this is the best ride ever. This bike is so comfortable to ride on. My jumps are getting higher and higher and my confidence is up. Going down the stairs at faster speeds is a breeze. So soft, so plush, so kind on my buttt. No more ouch ouch ouch. dammit. lol. I feel it's easier to hop and wheelie than the hardtail. As for uphill, no difference felt compared to my hardtail though. And, I just love playing with the dropper post. lol! Anyway, I hope this would help you decide on which bike you want and what you want to do with it. For a simple city commuting or ride ride around the neighborhood, a hardtail is more than enough. A full enduru rig is just too much bike. Unless, you want to do some stunts and aggressive riding, go full enduro. I'm legit inspired by this. Di lang ako makapag ipon ang gastos ko kasi. HAHA
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Post by verblkint on Feb 13, 2018 19:47:55 GMT 8
Keep your bike for now, bai. Join a group of mountain bikers and get more exposed to other locations, trails, riders, websites and get to see more bikes and bike shops. Davao is a great place for a mountain biker.
Be patient and try NOT to buy any non-essential upgrades for a couple of months. Trust me, riders who are new to bikes and riding and are impatient actually end up wasting a lot of money on parts that they don't really need (i.e. cheap loud hubs).
By the time May comes you should have a clearer idea what bike you should get and what parts to put in there.
Right now I have an All-Mountain hardtail and an Enduro rig, which also doubles as my DH bike. For both bikes, I didn't have to do any frivolous upgrades other than replace parts that were either worn or broken. This was because I was already pretty sure what I needed, wanted, and what was within my budget.
My Enduro bike just turned 3 and the only "upgrades" I did was to replace a broken carbon handlebar (no more CF for me) and change pedals (broke in half).
The money I saved I used to join races and travel to other locations (both in PH and overseas) to get more exposure and be a better rider.
If I were to go back and do it again, I wouldn't change a thing.
Have fun!
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