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Post by scumbads on Nov 6, 2016 23:59:04 GMT 8
mga sir may mrerecomend ba kayo na hubs for this kind terrain? yung matibay tibay na..pangmatagalan?
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Post by anthrax76 on Nov 7, 2016 6:34:30 GMT 8
On the top of my head, MOB or Da Bomb ang naiisip ko. Then again it will also depend on the fork and frame na pagkakabitan mo.
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Post by simplej0ys on Nov 7, 2016 7:10:14 GMT 8
Chris King, Hope, DT Swiss... Tumpak na matibay at pang-matagalan. Pang matagalan ka rin sigurong dehins kakain. Most newer hubs will have an adaptor for 100mm, 135mm, 142mm width axles and 9mm, 10mm, 15mm, 20mm QRs or TAs.
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Post by anthrax76 on Nov 7, 2016 11:28:31 GMT 8
ha ha ha @brad simplej0ys, kaya medyo mahirap mag recommend dito, most riders are on a tight budget.
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Post by simplej0ys on Nov 7, 2016 16:12:25 GMT 8
naku ako pa! I'm on the fence in upgrading/changing bikes. 26" to 650b. HT to FS. XC to Trail. Nampucha sa MAHAAAAAAAL!!! nyeta pamasahe ka na yun pauwi ng pasko eh! Actually tsikot na rin yun dito. (Jap import) What started all these is me wanting to upgrade my fork. Kaso NZD400 for a RS TK Air. At dehins pa yun tapered steerer kasi current bike to straight. So dehins pa pang matagalan. So sad. Kailangan pa ba muna manalo sa lotto para maka-buo ng decent bike ngayon? tsk!
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Post by spyghost on Nov 8, 2016 19:08:32 GMT 8
ck, hope, and dt swiss will take on the abuse. afaik hope is the cheapest among the 3, but yes all are not cheap. if you got money to burn, i'd go for ck or industry nine (i9). but i prefer the engineering of ck's ring drive compared to the rest of the pawl based freehubs. if you opt for loud high POE, go for i9. if you want a completely silent hub that can take on bmx abuse, go for true precision stealth hubs or onyx hubs - dead silent and infinite engagement since it's based on sprag clutch technology.
try dartmoor hubs. they have a good rep for dj. it's still on the expensive side if you compare with shimano, but still cheaper compared to the 3 above.
but then it still boils down to the manner of your riding. my POV on dj and freeride is jumping and dropping beyond 4ft. if you are going below that height range, shimano hubs will serve you well.
btw, proper lacing and tensioning has a lot to do with wheelset strength. no matter how good your component choices are, a poorly tensioned spoke will only yield to disaster. take note i didn't use the word true, but tension. any wheel build may be slightly off true, but properly tensioned. consequently, a perfectly true wheel may be off tension. personally i'd err more on the side of lateral/radial trueness. though there's still more to that like relieving spoke tension, which is a mandatory procedure as well. This is speaking from experience because i build my own wheels which i abuse in weekly in basekamp/timberland (modesty aside). it's been more than 2 years and my wheels are still ok without any re tensioning.
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Post by scumbads on Nov 12, 2016 11:16:37 GMT 8
if i get one of those hubs mga master do i need to replace also the rim and spokes? and saang store or place ako makaka iscore ng mga parts na need for DJ?
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Post by anthrax76 on Nov 12, 2016 12:05:22 GMT 8
scumbads, spoke length is dependent on 2 things: 1) hub flange height 2) rim height merong online na spoke length calculator, natamad na lang ako maghanap, he he. regarding stores for DJ, most reputable shops carry it. pero kung gusto mo ng dedicated equipment, i'd recommend Raven Cycles north of manila and Endless Cycles on the south.
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Post by scumbads on Nov 12, 2016 12:54:09 GMT 8
ok sir anthrax76 check yung mga stores na yan, maraming salamat.
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Post by spyghost on Nov 19, 2016 10:57:42 GMT 8
here's the deal with spoke lengths and ph market... our local market s*cks in terms of spoke length count. all that's known is rim size. so don't expect to get a well rounded off length for your build.
the rim ERD is the parameter that matters most as it's the largest significant figure in the equation. Not that the hub dims matter, they do of course but change the ERD by 1mm and your spoke length is off by a considerable length.
As for RIM ERD, I dont trust the manufacturer specs as there are manufacturing tolerances. Hub manufacturers present a more accurate dim but I still measure my own.
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Post by scumbads on Nov 28, 2016 21:19:21 GMT 8
add ko lang mga sir, alin ba mas maganda gamitin na hubs kung XC setup ko then yung ride ko mas mahaba ang road to trail. novatec chosen element
pa help naman need ng mga opinion at sa mga nakagamit ng mga hubs na yan.
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Post by konablack on Nov 29, 2016 9:56:56 GMT 8
add ko lang mga sir, alin ba mas maganda gamitin na hubs kung XC setup ko then yung ride ko mas mahaba ang road to trail. novatec chosen element pa help naman need ng mga opinion at sa mga nakagamit ng mga hubs na yan. In my opinion, it all falls on the drivetrain you are using. Don't worry too much about the hubs, as long as it can take the beating I once rode a bike with a non-series shimano hub and a pretty basic drivetrain (7-speed) plus a rigid fork in one of the trails in Bataan (i forgot the name). I was able to survive my very first trail ride with a lot of lessons learned. The bike survived as well Just go with what you have as you're just starting out
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Post by 18650 on Nov 29, 2016 10:34:06 GMT 8
well a low-end shimano hub is still a proven cup and cone design with strong pawls, and is of the freehub design that eliminates bent axles
the cheapo noisy hubs that's popular w/ the kids these days have a totally different design. the pawl springs may break easily. the aluminum axles may bend because the drive-side bearing is pretty much at the center of the axle already, as opposed to the shimano freehub design where the bearing has been brought outboard
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Post by albatross99 on Dec 11, 2016 22:06:32 GMT 8
add ko lang mga sir, alin ba mas maganda gamitin na hubs kung XC setup ko then yung ride ko mas mahaba ang road to trail. novatec chosen element pa help naman need ng mga opinion at sa mga nakagamit ng mga hubs na yan. In my opinion, it all falls on the drivetrain you are using. Don't worry too much about the hubs, as long as it can take the beating I once rode a bike with a non-series shimano hub and a pretty basic drivetrain (7-speed) plus a rigid fork in one of the trails in Bataan (i forgot the name). I was able to survive my very first trail ride with a lot of lessons learned. The bike survived as well Just go with what you have as you're just starting out sir kona San ako makakakita ng 7 speed shimano non series hubs hehe Ive put enough time and extra milage on my bike. And grave beating na natamo niya sakin bumigay na yung generic hubs ko na 7speed hehehe.
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Post by konablack on Dec 12, 2016 7:33:03 GMT 8
Check first what your old hub is, if it has a freehub or a threaded hub and if you have a cassette or freewheel. Determine that first before you upgrade If you want to keep your 7-speed setup then I think you can find some shops that still sell those hubs. I usually check the shops around Quiapo or the one close to you (the one near maginhawa).
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