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Post by kulot_salot on Feb 12, 2008 12:58:58 GMT 8
tolits/ben dover/lamok... whatever your name is right now.... ;D ;D ;D ;D now you've made it more complicated! hahaha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D no, not abalos.... a now senator from the dti.... hehehehehe..... ;D ;D ;D ;D remember the dance in the market?
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Post by kukai on Feb 12, 2008 14:21:57 GMT 8
anthony --> by any chance did your research reveal where Titus bikes are made?
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Post by king on Feb 12, 2008 16:12:23 GMT 8
Taiwan i think, except for the Ti models.
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Post by enzo on Feb 12, 2008 19:49:55 GMT 8
Taiwan i think, except for the Ti models. King, last time I check it was still all USA. Maybe we can ask Sabak coz there is a sticker on it if it's made in Taiwan. All the Ti and Exogrid frames are definitely US, I dont know if they went the Asian. Yeti is Asian now, so are some Trek Fuels.
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Post by g.b.b on Feb 12, 2008 20:04:55 GMT 8
everything is outsourced........ some frames i can name that are really made in US are: ellsworth, sycip, IF and the rest are either taiwan or china..... kukai, you're frame is still made in US but newer models are in taiwan and china.
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Post by anthony on Feb 12, 2008 20:30:49 GMT 8
still made in USA i'll post once i have an update. anthony --> by any chance did your research reveal where Titus bikes are made?
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Post by enzo on Feb 12, 2008 20:31:42 GMT 8
Cannondale!!! Bedford pensylvania
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Post by g.b.b on Feb 12, 2008 21:04:54 GMT 8
@da man.... originally from US but now in china.... kaya mura e
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Post by flipnidaho on Feb 12, 2008 21:04:58 GMT 8
Let's hope the new owners of Cannondale keeps it that way...
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Post by kukai on Feb 12, 2008 21:27:55 GMT 8
thank you anthony, i shall be on stand by... oh thanks, gbb kukai, you're frame is still made in US but newer models are in taiwan and china.
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Post by enzo on Feb 16, 2008 0:19:46 GMT 8
lets keep it simple jaymz...you import tons of bawang/garlic from china and pass it as local produce...no importation tax of course that should go pockets of arroyos este kaban ng bayan...you flood the market with it...it's a lot cheaper than true local produce...so retailers will not buy from local producers right? ..so they die.... local industry = farmers, dealers, transporters, laborers, fertilizer producers etc. abalos = importer of bawang...a f#$king tax evader. Ben, is he the same Abalos of Mandaluyong, Benjamin?
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Post by Taba® on Feb 16, 2008 3:23:52 GMT 8
still made in USA i'll post once i have an update. anthony --> by any chance did your research reveal where Titus bikes are made? 2007 Racer X and Motolite alums. were made in Taiwan but all 2008 models of Titus are now Made in USA...back to where it belong! A former partner of Titus is now producing PIVOT frames...it looks very similar to Racer X and Motolites with some modifications...
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Post by lucasvn on Feb 16, 2008 5:32:35 GMT 8
still made in USA i'll post once i have an update. 2007 Racer X and Motolite alums. were made in Taiwan but all 2008 models of Titus are now Made in USA...back to where it belong! A former partner of Titus is now producing PIVOT frames...it looks very similar to Racer X and Motolites with some modifications... My Motolite II an aluminum with Carbon Seat Stays and Rocker. Both Made in US and Taiwan, the Front Triangle Alum is made in the US and the Carbon Rocker and Seat Stays are made in Taiwan. For 2008, Motolite is now all Made in US. Regards, Charles
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Post by goyoyl on Feb 16, 2008 6:46:55 GMT 8
still made in USA i'll post once i have an update. 2007 Racer X and Motolite alums. were made in Taiwan but all 2008 models of Titus are now Made in USA...back to where it belong! A former partner of Titus is now producing PIVOT frames...it looks very similar to Racer X and Motolites with some modifications... Titus was started/founded by Chris Cocalis. Though you may think it looks similar to the Racer X, the Pivot bikes use the DW Link Suspension design technology, which is definitely a different suspension as that used by Titus.
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Post by goyoyl on Feb 16, 2008 7:13:47 GMT 8
A lot of bikes are made in Taiwan.
Though before it might a turn-off to see a made in taiwan sticker, fact of the matter is that the high-end frames that come out of the taiwan factories are really well made and of top quality.
This is due to several reasons, like experience in frame building. Taiwan easily produces millions of bike frames a year, thus this translates to gaining more knowhow and experience in improving the quality of their frames.
A number of companies have also taken a different path. Some have designated quality control personnel stationed in the Taiwan factories to ensure that the build quality is up to their standards.
Some have opted to have the frames undergo the quality control in their own office AFTER the frame has been produced (for example, the frames are shipped to Europe and the company owners examine the frames in their office in, say, Germany). The company then only ships out the frames that pass their quality control/standards.
So having a frame made in Taiwan may not be a really bad thing to happen. More important is the frame building process used by each company... Research and ask around..
Good luck!!
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Post by Nards on Feb 16, 2008 7:23:12 GMT 8
Yehey. I guess DaBomb is one tough animal. Apir!
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Post by clunker87 on Feb 16, 2008 8:09:45 GMT 8
Kudos to SHAWN , VISION, ATTACK , MOB and many more "Designed in the Philippines" -made in Taiwan. Although "designed" would mean graphics and paint scheme only to some and others to the extent of improving standard frame specs -geometry. This still beats the "PaltiK , Fakes, Imitations" Spez, Santacruzan and many more.
Lets support our local brands instead of the imitations. Together we could achieve someday a honest to goodness "designed in the Philippines" frame even if its made someother place w better quality.
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Post by Taba® on Feb 16, 2008 13:01:36 GMT 8
still made in USA i'll post once i have an update. 2007 Racer X and Motolite alums. were made in Taiwan but all 2008 models of Titus are now Made in USA...back to where it belong! A former partner of Titus is now producing PIVOT frames...it looks very similar to Racer X and Motolites with some modifications... I stand corrected, it is Chris Cocalis (founder of Titus) himself who collaborated with Dave Weagle (creator of the patented DW link suspension system). Yes, Atty Goyo is correct, though they may "look somewhat similar" but they utilize different suspension system. Titus use the Horst link while Pivot use the DW link. Both great bikes...
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Post by kukai on Feb 17, 2008 21:21:34 GMT 8
thank you to all who replied to my query one thing I am sure now of is my rig keeps up with my style of riding i am one very happy rider
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Post by Daimler on Feb 18, 2008 9:35:12 GMT 8
how about my poor vision pursuit... it maybe poor...to what as you call it sir (but I know your just kidding)... but for me... I would be proud to sport a vision frame because it is designed by a filipino and for the filipnino rider... this is what I learn from one of the staff that kinda bring those hard ass frames... it is just made by dabomb but desinged by a pinoy...isn't it cool!!! I envy those pearl whites... but it's good to know this thing, sir...
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Post by Onie on Feb 18, 2008 11:44:17 GMT 8
I stand corrected, it is Chris Cocalis (founder of Titus) himself who collaborated with Dave Weagle (creator of the patented DW link suspension system). Yes, Atty Goyo is correct, though they may "look somewhat similar" but they utilize different suspension system. Titus use the Horst link while Pivot use the DW link. Both great bikes...
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Post by Onie on Feb 18, 2008 12:00:07 GMT 8
Basically, an aluminum Mojo (which has escaped my attention since carbon still gets me skittish over jagged rocks and what not; th0ugh to0 late for me since last year).
And with 5.4 inches of bump devouring travel, the Mach 5 easily smooths everything in its path, while the DW-Link’s “position sensitive anti-squat” technology ensures that there’s no bob on the climbs or out of the corners. - pivotcycles
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Post by king on Feb 23, 2008 21:31:55 GMT 8
www.nsmb.com/shore_news/fergstaipei2.phpMade In Taiwan Part 2 "Kinesis' client list is a who's-who of the bike world. To name just a few who have enlisted their manufacturing expertise: Bianchi, Bridgestone (whoa! Bridgestone. There's a blast from the past), Cannondale, Corratec, Commencal, Decathlon, Felt, GT, Haro, Ironhorse, Jamis, Kona, K2, Raleigh Group, Storck, Specialized, Sunn, Titus, etc. "
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Post by enzo on Feb 24, 2008 1:55:01 GMT 8
Basically, an aluminum Mojo (which has escaped my attention since carbon still gets me skittish over jagged rocks and what not; th0ugh to0 late for me since last year). And with 5.4 inches of bump devouring travel, the Mach 5 easily smooths everything in its path, while the DW-Link’s “position sensitive anti-squat” technology ensures that there’s no bob on the climbs or out of the corners. - pivotcycles Wise move Chris for forming Pivot. I've always thought that the Exogrids of Titus is the best frame material for an FS, but the suspension is just to old. Enter DW link on Pivot bikes. A tad better than the proven Maestro. (Which a tad better than all the other suspension design) ;D Peace! Jessie, are you listening? ?
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Post by Alphabolt on Feb 24, 2008 11:31:52 GMT 8
dudes and dudettes, hey we can make this thread ala historical knowledge datamining parang Guns & Ammo ...identify the frame model (for repainted ones) + year model + country of origin/fabrication let me start ... what about this frame from Specialized markings "Specialized (bottomtube) FSR (top tube) elite (seattube)" 1 1/8". front triangle is aluminum and rear is chromoly SN# M5F116758 (located at the top front of the headtube) it has lugs at the three intersections want me to move this thread or create a new one at the MTB discussion section? LMK pls
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Post by enzo on Feb 24, 2008 11:50:55 GMT 8
Arnel brad, The front prolly is Duralcan and the rear True temper or Tange. First generation tubing of Spesh are from this two companies. Making the best of both worlds. Aluminum for stiffness and Cromoly for resiliency. This is when they used to compete with the Ritchey frames before. It's a very good find and I can see the parts of GT perfect on this frame.
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Post by Alphabolt on Feb 24, 2008 11:56:16 GMT 8
Arnel brad, The front prolly is Duralcan and the rear True temper or Tange. First generation tubing of Spesh are from this two companies. Making the best of both worlds. Aluminum for stiffness and Cromoly for resiliency. This is when they used to compete with the Ritchey frames before. It's a very good find and I can see the parts of GT perfect on this frame. Edgar papi, did they make this frame in USA pa? or Spesh always outsourced ? gracie mil!
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Post by enzo on Feb 24, 2008 12:03:05 GMT 8
Early Spesh were mostly made in USA. Fusing diff materials were not yet the forte of Taiwan. Remember the Diamondback carbon/cromo fusing? The IBOC of Moongoose? making frame from one material is'nt easy for them. Except Giant's Cadex of course And I forgot MIYATA for using alloy lugs.
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Post by Alphabolt on Feb 24, 2008 12:09:46 GMT 8
estimate of year model kaya pls? ballpark year model is fine..I ll google it but I like my Enzopedia more! thanks , bike sensei Edgar!
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Post by schwinng on Feb 24, 2008 12:23:47 GMT 8
estimate of year model kaya pls? ballpark year model is fine..I ll google it but I like my Enzopedia more! thanks , bike sensei Edgar! I second that, "Enzopedia" over google or anything/anyone for that matter ;D. Enzo remember Parkpre? I wonder what happened to their mtb line? I have a semi pro friend who rides their road frame, but I sure remember their mtb frames, pretty cool back in the day.
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