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Post by rocky on Jan 31, 2008 2:00:54 GMT 8
Oi sir Goyo told me the real weight of my Ibis Mojo is sub 24 pounds.
Why?
Because the seatpost (Ritchey WCS) installed now is for temporary use only (on loan), until after Bike Town Cyclery's stock of Thomson Masterpiece seatpost arrives. Then I will return Ritchey WCS seatpost to Sir Goyo and he will give me real seatpost for this bike = Thomson Masterpiece. Thomson Masterpiece is lighter than Ritchey WCS.
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Post by mountguitars on Jan 31, 2008 3:23:09 GMT 8
nice! i thought you bought the epiphany already. i was gonna tell you how heavy it was, hehehe ;D. i think you made the right choice. for one thing, the weight is phenomenal. two, you have DW link which will give you a pedal efficient ride. three, carbon fiber absorbs those minute vibrations thus giving you a comfier ride. combine all of these and what you have is ............an IBIS mojo. ;D i would have to say that your bike is even lighter than my NRS and that is just sick. ;D though you might want to use fatter tires for a more stable ride. after all, AM rigs are built for such. use at least 2.0's. but then again, its your bike and you can do whatever you want. im just happy you made the right choice. hope to see you soon fafa rocks!
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Post by enzo on Jan 31, 2008 3:28:59 GMT 8
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Post by rocky on Jan 31, 2008 6:38:52 GMT 8
though you might want to use fatter tires for a more stable ride. after all, AM rigs are built for such. use at least 2.0's. but then again, its your bike and you can do whatever you want. im just happy you made the right choice. hope to see you soon fafa rocks! Yes MountG. I have the following 2.0 and above fatter tires at home waiting for its turn to be used pending what type of trail riding I will be doing for the day: Maxxis Minion DHF 26x2.5 Maxxis Minion DHR 26x2.5 Maxxis Ranchero 26x2.1 Maxxis Larsen TT 26x2.0 Kenda Nevegal 26x2.1 Nokian Gazzaloddi 26x2.1
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Post by donbautist on Jan 31, 2008 7:05:46 GMT 8
congrats on your new purchase fafa....enjoy....hoooaah
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Post by boredmdmtber on Jan 31, 2008 7:17:19 GMT 8
though you might want to use fatter tires for a more stable ride. after all, AM rigs are built for such. use at least 2.0's. but then again, its your bike and you can do whatever you want. im just happy you made the right choice. hope to see you soon fafa rocks! Yes MountG. I have the following 2.0 and above fatter tires at home waiting for its turn to be used pending what type of trail riding I will be doing for the day: Maxxis Minion DHF 26x2.5 Maxxis Minion DHR 26x2.5 Maxxis Ranchero 26x2.1 Maxxis Larsen TT 26x2.0 Kenda Nevegal 26x2.1 Nokian Gazzaloddi 26x2.1 Sir Rocky, 2.5's are little too overkill in my opinion and will add to the rotating weight up front. 2.3's 2.35's are a good compromise up front and 2-2.1 in the rear. Kenda makes 2.35s Nevegal but not the tubeless variety. Me and my wife use the 2.35 Maxxis Ignitor Tubeless up front which are good in hardpack and "rocky" trails, not ideal in mud though. I use the tubeless 2.1 Nevegal in the rear and my wife has the Maxxis 2.1 Crossmark tubeless in the back which have been a pleasant surprise. Like they said though, it's your bike so you can experiment a little bit if you want.
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Post by Lui-G on Jan 31, 2008 8:12:27 GMT 8
Nice bike Papa Rocky! So sexy and ang landi! Though I must admit that I for one, voted for the Epiphany . But then again, as I said, either frames would still give you the best. Rock baby rock!!!
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Post by schwinng on Jan 31, 2008 8:48:55 GMT 8
I got three words for that bike, BYOO-TI-POOL! Congrats Sir Rocky! Enjoy!
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Post by hyperion on Jan 31, 2008 11:49:40 GMT 8
I saw the PM too late but I also voted for the Ibis. I was also at BTC yesterday so I experienced the wait, the anticipation, the excitement and of course the "proud papa" joy in Faparocky's eyes upon beholding his spanking bling bling sexy brawny Mojo. The icing on the cake of course is the knowledge that the Mojo is not just visual bling but it is also a technical tour de force with state of the art DW link suspension and coupled with other top notch parts like the XTR drivetrain, Thomson goodies, KMC gold chain etc makes for the trail bike that most of us can only dream about.
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Post by rocky on Jan 31, 2008 12:16:39 GMT 8
Yes MountG. I have the following 2.0 and above fatter tires at home waiting for its turn to be used pending what type of trail riding I will be doing for the day: Maxxis Minion DHF 26x2.5 Maxxis Minion DHR 26x2.5 Maxxis Ranchero 26x2.1 Maxxis Larsen TT 26x2.0 Kenda Nevegal 26x2.1 Nokian Gazzaloddi 26x2.1 Sir Rocky, 2.5's are little too overkill in my opinion and will add to the rotating weight up front. 2.3's 2.35's are a good compromise up front and 2-2.1 in the rear. Kenda makes 2.35s Nevegal but not the tubeless variety. Me and my wife use the 2.35 Maxxis Ignitor Tubeless up front which are good in hardpack and "rocky" trails, not ideal in mud though. I use the tubeless 2.1 Nevegal in the rear and my wife has the Maxxis 2.1 Crossmark tubeless in the back which have been a pleasant surprise. Like they said though, it's your bike so you can experiment a little bit if you want. Oh my goodness. My bad! Did I jot down 26x5 for both Maxxis Minion DHF and DHR? What I meant was 26x3 because that is what I have. Must have been too excited and poofed too because of arrival of new baby. Yes I have been experimenting by interchanging fat tires front and rear. DarthPaul and Dayuhan inspired me to do this with their valuable tips re advantages of doing so.
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Post by bm5er on Jan 31, 2008 13:28:46 GMT 8
Congrats Rocky. Its twin will be out next month.
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Post by rexman on Jan 31, 2008 23:01:30 GMT 8
congratulations on your bike sir. what's the final weight of the bike? can you share the specs?
see you on the trails!
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Post by rocky on Feb 3, 2008 2:11:02 GMT 8
congratulations on your bike sir. what's the final weight of the bike? can you share the specs? see you on the trails! Sir Rexman, Pls refer to reply#145 of this thread.
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Post by rexman on Feb 3, 2008 7:22:20 GMT 8
congratulations on your bike sir. what's the final weight of the bike? can you share the specs? see you on the trails! Sir Rexman, Pls refer to reply#145 of this thread. Oooops, missed this message somehow, maybe the page did not download properly. Still a great bike with all the topnotch components. paglaki ko....
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Post by rocky on Feb 4, 2008 7:47:25 GMT 8
though you might want to use fatter tires for a more stable ride. after all, AM rigs are built for such. use at least 2.0's. but then again, its your bike and you can do whatever you want. Hay naku MountG. For the two test rides of 40 kms each (80 kms) I did on gnarlier sections of Licao-Licao trails, wish I followed your advise earlier by not using 26x1.95 Kenda Nevegal and Small Block Eight on an AM rig like Ibis Mojo. Something about Ibis Mojo ride that springs, leaps forward, atttacks with vengeance. Gigil na gigil. It floats like a butterfly. Stings like a bee. 26x1.95 tires don't offer stability to an otherwise pure bred Ibis Mojo pedigree. After I swapped to fatter Hutchinson tubeless Light Scorpion 26x2.0 tire, I found the control needed to enjoy Ibis Mojo more.
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Post by boredmdmtber on Feb 4, 2008 13:50:02 GMT 8
Sir Rocky,
2.3 and 2.1's. Leave the 1.95 for racers on smooth terrain.
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Post by rocky on Feb 4, 2008 14:43:51 GMT 8
Exactly. I used 1.95 only for installation and during learning curve test ride purposes. Of course, Ibis Mojo proved its XC race worthiness on 1.95, front suspension locked-on, rear shock on pro pedal. I must have covered total distance of 60 kms biking speedily around smooth paved village roads, as I get familiar dialling Fox Talas 32 RLC and Fox RP23 knobs and controls.
After I tested Ibis Mojo on trails using same 1.95 tires, was I in for a rude awakening! 1.95 tires just can't keep up with the way Ibis Mojo rides all mountain. Whereas Ibis Mojo likes to do more, 1.95 keeps on skipping and sliding and shaking left and right while bombing over loose gravel on hardpack. Strange though. With my Trek Fuel 80, 1.95 can handle Fuel 80's ride just fine. But with Ibis Mojo, 1.95 gets unstable and risky.
I took Hutchinson Tubeless Scorpion 2.0 tires for a short bomb run. Somehow, 2.0 was able to hold up on its own. What more if I use Maxxis Minion 2.3 DHFront and Kenda Nevegal 2.1 on rear? Or my Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 front and Maxxis Larsen TT 2.0 rear? Surely with fatter tires I will enjoy Ibis Mojo more.
No ifs and buts about it. Ibis Mojo requires no less than 2.0 fat tires to perform up and down mountainous trails.
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Post by boredmdmtber on Feb 4, 2008 15:29:16 GMT 8
Exactly. I used 1.95 only for installation and during learning curve test ride purposes. Of course, Ibis Mojo proved its XC race worthiness on 1.95, front suspension locked-on, rear shock on pro pedal. I must have covered total distance of 60 kms biking speedily around smooth paved village roads, as I get familiar dialling Fox Talas 32 RLC and Fox RP23 knobs and controls. After I tested Ibis Mojo on trails using same 1.95 tires, was I in for a rude awakening! 1.95 tires just can't keep up with the way Ibis Mojo rides all mountain. Whereas Ibis Mojo likes to do more, 1.95 keeps on skipping and sliding and shaking left and right while bombing over loose gravel on hardpack. Strange though. With my Trek Fuel 80, 1.95 can handle Fuel 80's ride just fine. But with Ibis Mojo, 1.95 gets unstable and risky. I took Hutchinson Tubeless Scorpion 2.0 tires for a short bomb run. Somehow, 2.0 was able to hold up on its own. What more if I use Maxxis Minion 2.3 DHFront and Kenda Nevegal 2.1 on rear? Or my Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 front and Maxxis Larsen TT 2.0 rear? Surely with fatter tires I will enjoy Ibis Mojo more. No ifs and buts about it. Ibis Mojo requires no less than 2.0 fat tires to perform up and down mountainous trails. Sir Rocky, I've never locked out my front fork for a good reason. I believe you need some bump absorption to maintain better traction on climbs. The only thing I would suggest on prolonged climbs is to dial down the Talas to 120mm to steepen your head angle. I would keep the propedal on the minimum setting or even off. VPP, DW-link and Maestro designs don't need that much propedal. I think the sag on the Mojo is 10-15%. I think the max is 2.3-2.35 for tires with your XTR rims. Ride Safe.
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Post by goyoyl on Feb 5, 2008 23:22:47 GMT 8
Rocky, I suggest get bigger tires. I have a couple of Nevegals, which I'll give to you for free. Ibis has been winning awards all over. And I'm confident about the durability of the Mojo. Guys have been riding the Mojos in the Philippines since last year... And I'm happy to say that NOT A SINGLE frame cracked... No frame breakage... No cracked stays... No broken or cracked links..
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Post by rocky on Feb 6, 2008 1:47:34 GMT 8
Rocky, I suggest get bigger tires. I have a couple of Nevegals, which I'll give to you for free. Ibis has been winning awards all over. And I'm confident about the durability of the Mojo. Guys have been riding the Mojos in the Philippines since last year... And I'm happy to say that NOT A SINGLE frame cracked... No frame breakage... No cracked stays... No broken or cracked links.. Unfortunately I can't say the same for other full carbon FS bikes frames. Whaaat? Did I hear I will receive Nevegal fat tire for free? Again, I am being pampered like a baby by your generousity...sir goyo. Why? Because I got the following freebies together with prompt same day air freight delivery of Ibis Mojo: 1. Ibis dark blue t-shirt 2. rear blinkers 3. headlights 4. 4 cups Stan's sealant 5. Ibis chainstay protector 6. Cane Creek headset 7. Thomson Masterpiece Stem 8. and now...Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Oh gee. Eversince I used 2.0 fat tire on Ibis Mojo test runs I've been doing 40 kms daily on jackhammer uphill/downhill upak trails, I give my Ibis Mojo now a rating of 10 flaming chilis just like rest of 55 other MTB Reviewers. Only thing that limited my Ibis Mojo from showing its full AM potential during daily test runs was my using 1.95 tires that I requested be installed. MountG and boredmdmtber were quick to correcting where I did wrong. And sir goyo too. After I switched to 2.0 tires, Ibis Mojo performed flawlessly like a true champ. I understand I shouldn't be biking daily. Because this leads to overtraining. But...but the smiles, fulfillment, and happiness Ibis Mojo instill in me is very very addicting. I just love how Ibis mojo performs its true stuff. What more if I increase tire fatness to 2.1 or 2.3 perhaps..as boredmdmtber recommends. Mama mia... Barugan na ito!
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Post by enzo on Feb 6, 2008 1:51:13 GMT 8
Papa Rocky, The Scorpions center have a rounded profile and small side knobs, The Nevegals center is flatter and the side knobs are more prominent for turns. In dry trails, Scorpions rules but for Phil trails, go for the Nevegals. Very confident and stable ride.
I wish I am there to prep your suspension, but Doc's suggestion is spot on. One way to get the rebound stting right is, after you dialed the pressure of your air spring to your weight, to get the neutral or best rebound is by pushing the handlebar down hard and then let go. The bike will jump ( catch it, dont want to scratch your baby) and will touch the floor. If the front wheel bounced more than once, its too fast and will buck you up like a bronco does to a cowboy. If it didnt bounce at all, too slow and will pack up when you hit wash boards or stutter bumps.
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Post by rocky on Feb 6, 2008 2:02:45 GMT 8
Thanks for showing me how to set Ibis Mojo up...sir enzo. I will do. I will do.
Please understand that the jump for me from 05 Trek Fuel 80 to today's 08 Ibis Mojo is monumental. The difference of ride performance is night to day. That I am perplexed, mesmerized, in state of utter disbelief and total shock is putting it mildly. That I am ganadong-ganado (very eager) is true. That I am in heaven...PinoyMTBiker understands.
Sorry. OT na ako.
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Post by mountguitars on Feb 6, 2008 4:14:08 GMT 8
fafa rocky, the fatter the tires, the better the handling, which makes riding more fun. ;D. the moment you used riser bars, riding will never be the same. the moment you used longer travel, riding will never be the same. its all about fun, fun, fun. ;D. but then again, there's a limit to using fat tires. so far, 2.3's upfront and 2.1 at the rear is the optimal setting for a fast paced, no compromised ride for an AM rig. going any fatter will give you a stable ride but pedalling will be a killer. you can spin all you want but unfortunately, you'll be slower and will be left behind. come downhill, iwan sila lahat even on techy sections even on ascents. on an AM rig, sometimes, its not how fast you do things........... its how graceful and how you make things look easy as compared to using an XC rig. you will take a lot of things for granted specially after gaining confidence. next time ride tayo nila paul just like before. hopefully i can give you tips about AM rigs. ride safe.
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