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Post by anthrax76 on Oct 11, 2007 13:04:32 GMT 8
here's my take on this.
brad, just go get the frame, it looks like you're all set anyway. if it doesn't break good for you. if it does, don't say we didn't warn you. even arelysbykshop stopped selling this item after some of frames came back because of the broken part near the chainstay.
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doctins
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Post by doctins on Oct 11, 2007 14:06:48 GMT 8
Sir this Frame is so popular , More popular than the orig. But i hope those Frame owner will tell us more Feedback. I'm planning to buy one . for my road riding sa Dec. pa.
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Post by lucasvn on Oct 11, 2007 14:33:27 GMT 8
Sir this Frame is so popular , More popular than the orig. But i hope those Frame owner will tell us more Feedback. I'm planning to buy one . for my road riding sa Dec. pa. More popular than the orig? ? why not use it's own name?? Don't get it. Safety first.
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Post by fattire on Oct 11, 2007 15:14:56 GMT 8
your mind's made up, there's only so much that PinoyMTBiker can do
just bear in mind that those who replied did so hoping to inform not only you but those who will read this discussion today and tomorrow.
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badburn
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Post by badburn on Oct 11, 2007 18:07:37 GMT 8
It's a fake, its not even worth a review i believe...
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Post by jtbul on Oct 11, 2007 18:48:33 GMT 8
xctofi:
Dont get me wrong man.What I'm trying to do is point out the good facts about the frame which is out right glaring( particularly the price).What I am trying to acheive is to solicite information about the capabilities of the frame especially it's durabilty.To me that is trying to be objective before even actually deciding .What I do not want to do is to decide based on emotions rather factual information. to date there is still mixed feeling on the frame.If the frame is outright bad then not one single user should attest that it's worth using.
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Post by xctofi on Oct 11, 2007 19:30:27 GMT 8
xctofi: Dont get me wrong man.What I'm trying to do is point out the good facts about the frame which is out right glaring( particularly the price).What I am trying to acheive is to solicite information about the capabilities of the frame especially it's durabilty.To me that is trying to be objective before even actually deciding .What I do not want to do is to decide based on emotions rather factual information. to date there is still mixed feeling on the frame.If the frame is outright bad then not one single user should attest that it's worth using. not getting anything wrong here man. but not seeing anything right either. point out good facts? we already gave you factual info's about this (as provided by Sir Armen) the price will of course be cheap. how else would they (fakers) be able to sell one? we've already pointed out numerous cons why you should not even consider the frame but you seem to really like it so much. its obvious. decide based on factual informations and not emotions? you're emotions got in the way already just because of the price. open your eyes man. a single(maybe another one more) users of the said frame says its a good frame as to 3-4 confirmed identical breakage. do the math. we cant convince you enough to NOT get this frame. its still you're decision at the end. thats a fact. and im not being emotional. peace
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hance
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Post by hance on Oct 11, 2007 19:57:33 GMT 8
The point is this : There are numerous reports of those fake-superlight frames that broke. Meanwhile, some of those lucky fake-superlight users could attest to the durability of the frame. The question is, are you willing to buy a product that has a 50/50 (more-or-less) chance of getting a lemon? (No warranty BTW according to previous similar threads.) Tsambahan ba.If you do get the frame and it didnt break then, good for you, you got your money's worth. If it DID break, not only did you also lose money, you might have been injured too. Or do you doubt that breaking a frame is dangerous? I've never thought I would reply to this thread, I've always thought it was too obvious ;D Peace BTW
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Post by g.b.b on Oct 11, 2007 20:55:59 GMT 8
ok... here's mine.... i want it simple and clear....
DONT get it.......
there goes another bad feedback.
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Post by overlap on Oct 11, 2007 21:00:39 GMT 8
I guess everybody here is just concern for the safety of their fellow bikers (one thing I like about PinoyMTBiker). If a lot of them think that its not worth it, thats their opinion. After hearing some of their comments and you still wants the frame. GO FOR IT! Its your call. Nothing personal. PEACE!
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oceanrider88
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Post by oceanrider88 on Oct 11, 2007 21:13:25 GMT 8
jtbuljust get it brad. I know you're getting it despite all the comments. Just to make you feel better, its a cheap experiment. If it lasts more than 48 rides then that's only P100 per trail - cheaper than a P500 - P1K rental from Sabak.If it doesn't last, well, you can always charge it to your experience. You can always prove everyone wrong jtbul. Just ride past 48 trail rides then post an eye opening review - pero after 48 ha It would be a waste if you bought an expensive frame and after a few rides you realized mtbiking isnt for you. If you break it, then hang it as a trophy on your wall. Tell your friends you broke it from jumping off a cliff a very high one riddled with danger and traps Remember, most of us started from cheap rigs. If you really want it, ok lang yan. Try and fly! This is your baptism by fire. Ride on broda!
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hance
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Post by hance on Oct 12, 2007 1:08:30 GMT 8
This'll probably be my last post on this thread. I broke a frame once. dehins ako nanghinayang sa frame but what bugged me is that it messed up my knee. I couldnt walk for a month and I couldnt ride again properly for the following months. Fortunately, after several months, I was able to fully recover. It probably wont happen to you too but it would be wise to stack odds on your favor.
Sige na nga bahala ka na, hehe.
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santino
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Post by santino on Oct 12, 2007 2:54:40 GMT 8
To add more fuel to the dissenting crowd... ever wondered why so much material was added to the head tube area?
First off, the aluminum used is probably so weak the manufacturers had to put a lot of reinforcing gussets to patch it up.
Secondly, a cheap frame obviously will use very cheap aluminum... probably recycled from those soda cans we use. I'm not joking on this statement. It takes a lot of capital to order certified metal tubing.
Thirdly, I posted this already in the Downhill rush thread, but it will have to appear here again:
Keith Bontrager once wrote a credo about buying any mountain bike components... "Strong, Light, Cheap."
Pick only two.
If you get something Strong/cheap, it won't be light.
If you get someting Light/cheap, it won't be strong.
If you want something Strong/light, it won't be cheap.
The previous posts are definitely right when they say do not risk your neck for something dead-cheap.. because if you cheapen out.. you might turn up dead.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Oct 15, 2007 11:25:49 GMT 8
How Much is the frame anyway ?
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veeduber
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Post by veeduber on Oct 15, 2007 11:48:31 GMT 8
Is'nt it a 4k frame?
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Post by marcs on Oct 15, 2007 11:59:49 GMT 8
Yup around 4k. I suppose for that price, it is ok as long as you don't use it to for any aggressive stuff, you know, avoiding speeds and runs wherein a break in the frame could coz injury, particularly when riding down rough roads. Reading the other threads, I guess most people tried to ride it aggressivly due to it's weight, which is a hefty 36lbs fully built bike.
But thinking about it, what is the point then of having a 36lbs bike that you can't use to bomb down trails? If mean, the weight is not XCish, and the durability is not DJ/AM/DHish . . .wouldn't it be better to get a nice lightweight hardtail instead? Way i see it, you;re not getting the benefits of an FS anyway.
but hey, go for it if you want. Just stay safe.
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Post by dayuhan on Oct 15, 2007 13:52:10 GMT 8
What kind of a rear shock do you get on a 4k frame? I can't believe that's gonna pedal like anything even close to the real thing. Single pivot with a dead-cheap rear shock, my guess is bob city, crazy inefficient.
Way better a good HT than a cheap @#$% FS.
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trance03
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Post by trance03 on Oct 15, 2007 17:19:50 GMT 8
it wouldn't be a good purchase as it is of questionable performance. it wouldn't be worthy riding this thing thinking it would break to pieces while you're on top of it. if you plan to do serious mtb riding, don't buy the bike.
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ony
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Post by ony on Oct 15, 2007 21:10:25 GMT 8
waste of money
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leo
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Post by leo on Oct 16, 2007 10:58:44 GMT 8
I do recall a few posts a few months back from people who bought the frame , they were happy at first and believers in it . In fact they could be even defensive about that frame . Fast forward two months from then , they either broke it or were selling / sold it.
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Post by thops on Oct 16, 2007 12:17:37 GMT 8
don't support fakes item
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Post by maxbuwaya on Oct 16, 2007 12:32:01 GMT 8
Yup. Just go for knock offs ;D
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Post by jtbul on Oct 16, 2007 13:11:13 GMT 8
what do you mean by knock offs?BTW I was at King's last week end and I saw the new FS frames from KHS.Mind you the cost of these frames are quite attractive ...shall I start a thread regarding these frames?
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Post by maxbuwaya on Oct 16, 2007 13:19:38 GMT 8
what do you mean by knock offs?BTW I was at King's last week end and I saw the new FS frames from KHS.Mind you the cost of these frames are quite attractive ...shall I start a thread regarding these frames? If you bought a fake stuff, You don't say to your bike buddies thats its a fake. Say its "Its a knock off" Because Knock off sounds more expensive than fake. ;D ================ KHS? How much? Maybe you can start a thread regarding that
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Post by BrusKO on Oct 16, 2007 13:23:51 GMT 8
Hey girls! I'll buy that frame in a heartbeat! In fact, I'll start saving up for it. I hope I won't run out of the medium frames in Quiapo. I just love the fact that it's light!!! Yahoo!!!!!
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absolutezero
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Post by absolutezero on Oct 16, 2007 13:51:49 GMT 8
replicas?.. its a hit or miss! 1% hit or 99% miss...
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Post by Alphabolt on Oct 16, 2007 13:58:11 GMT 8
Hey girls! I'll buy that frame in a heartbeat! In fact, I'll start saving up for it. I hope I won't run out of the medium frames in Quiapo. I just love the fact that it's light!!! Yahoo!!!!! Crazy Bruce ! ;D ;D so most P M T B riders ( we hope you, jtbul, respect some of the personalities as being with credibility) know that the sinuperlight's a "lemon" (meaning its panget in design and function and even downright dangerous) weigh their opinions vs your opinion .... think about it Stop! No need to think ! seriously, It s a no brainer brad peace Unless you already bought one...and need to continue justifying it to yourself...go and indulge yourself, its your frame So you know...should anything happen to you on the trails ... most probably the person(s) helping you are members of P M T B anyway
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Post by jtbul on Oct 16, 2007 16:55:40 GMT 8
Peeps:
Nope I never bought the sinurperlight! Although I might sound like antagonistic I jsut wanted to solicite moer comments as possible on the frame.
As confirmed this frame is a big yellow " lemon" and it shows in most of the comment received in this thread.
Now I have a new frame to look at...the KHS FS frame that jane showed me at guess the price....it's less than 15K!
shall we start a thread about the frame?
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Post by anthrax76 on Oct 16, 2007 17:00:34 GMT 8
good choice in not buying the frame
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Post by angelobryant on Oct 16, 2007 17:10:19 GMT 8
Peeps: Nope I never bought the sinurperlight! Although I might sound like antagonistic I jsut wanted to solicite moer comments as possible on the frame. As confirmed this frame is a big yellow " lemon" and it shows in most of the comment received in this thread. Now I have a new frame to look at...the KHS FS frame that jane showed me at guess the price....it's less than 15K! shall we start a thread about the frame? thats a good frame. Buy the xc104 and then upgrade the shocks just like what I did. I have this frame and so far loving it. ;D
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