tuneinlito
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 6, 2008 15:14:34 GMT 8
i think sr suntour epicon is good enough staying in control on trails. just check out the mtbr mountain bike review website. the review on this fork is above 4 chillies. sr suntour is not a big name in forks but look at the review first, you'll think twice or be convinced.
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 6, 2008 15:56:06 GMT 8
Suntour is a Good Brand of Fork, yep nt yet big names in fork, what the matter is, The MTBAction magazine and other Bike Mags lacks promotion, and ads, on that brand, if only they will endorse it, things will never be the same.
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Post by bernie on Jan 7, 2008 9:01:16 GMT 8
Suntour is a Good Brand of Fork, yep nt yet big names in fork, what the matter is, The MTBAction magazine and other Bike Mags lacks promotion, and ads, on that brand, if only they will endorse it, things will never be the same. Uh, if that is the case, better MBAction will not review this product, it might cause a sudden price increase? Hahahahahahhahah
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Post by kinkyhooter on Jan 7, 2008 12:11:13 GMT 8
I have a 2007 XCR, the entry level one with 2 Preload adjuster knobs.
Just wanted to ask how many + turns can it take so I can have a safe zone for adding preload.
For Road I set it at 12+ turns. How many turns kaya for Trails?
Thanks!
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lloyd
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Post by lloyd on Jan 7, 2008 12:25:50 GMT 8
When you buy a fork, the technology gets along with its price tag. That's the reason why the branded ones are often expensive. Technology wise, the branded ones like the zokes, fox, rs, manitou, etc... are above (they have also lower end models except fox) but as i've said on my previous post, SR Suntour forks are value for the money. Basically, if we will talk about their price and market segment, SR Suntour forks are way above the rest... but now, RST is catching up on their new models for 2008. Just check RST's site. Don't know if those models are already available in our LBS.
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Post by meeeng on Jan 7, 2008 12:29:05 GMT 8
kinkyhooter are you from KAC?
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lloyd
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Post by lloyd on Jan 7, 2008 12:31:07 GMT 8
I have a 2007 XCR, the entry level one with 2 Preload adjuster knobs. Just wanted to ask how many + turns can it take so I can have a safe zone for adding preload. For Road I set it at 12+ turns. How many turns kaya for Trails? Thanks! Sir, The preload adjustment depends on your weight and ridding style. Just keep on testing it until you find the fork's response acceptable. On my previous SR Suntour forks (XCP Pro, XCP DJ and XCR), had just set the pre load to the middle. Used it on XC, road and trails... my previous application on the XCP DJ was for DJ, trails, aggressive XC/AM, light freeride and DH racing. By the way, I weigh 125 lbs during those times .
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tuneinlito
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Post by tuneinlito on Jan 7, 2008 12:55:21 GMT 8
I use to have an XCR 120 mm travel. I weigh 130 punds, from full negative (sagad sa negative) i do 3 full turns clockwise on the preload knobs. The fork must absorb little to big bumps with ease. This is enough for me when i'm on trails. The more turns the more the fork stiffens.
Here's a tip brad: I add 2 full turns when I'm on road. So thats 5 full turns from full negative. Thats what i prefer according to my weight.
I tried this fork, used it for more than 1 year, i gave it to my cousin and upgraded to epicon also an SR Suntour. I was thinking of buying another brand like M_ _ _ _ _ _ _ i or the M_ _ _ _ _ u, but dude, i became a big fan of sr suntour. Performance is good, great fork. When you look at it, it is simply designed, looks boring but one thing i can say is this is good perfomance. Sr suntour did a good job on making forks. dehins nahuhuli sa big name brands.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jan 7, 2008 13:13:06 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill.
With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork.
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 7, 2008 13:26:53 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill. With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. i agree a 101%
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Post by bernie on Jan 7, 2008 13:38:30 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill. With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. Correct, that is why they did not get the real moneys worth-potential of the fork, the real purpose. ( bibili mahal ayaw naman putikan o gamitin ) Unless you have the bucks ( like mythbuster ) to test and test and test something to prove or broke a bike's myth heheheh.
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bobby
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Post by bobby on Jan 7, 2008 17:14:31 GMT 8
Very true, agree, agree. Mythbuster could you be my best friend and hand me down pre tested forks. I would love to have those high end forks before i die. Only in my dreams that would be a reality. My wife said to limit my budget to 2.5 k or else we wont eat. Its good there are RST'S, SUNTOURS, ZOOM, GTS. etc.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jan 7, 2008 19:07:52 GMT 8
With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. by the way am one of those people hehehehehe (With my marzochhi 2003)
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Post by kinkyhooter on Jan 7, 2008 19:28:16 GMT 8
kinkyhooter are you from KAC? Yep! KAC boy here. Must meeeng?!
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Post by kinkyhooter on Jan 7, 2008 19:30:25 GMT 8
I used to have an XCR 120 mm travel. I weigh 130 punds, from full negative (sagad sa negative) i do 3 full turns clockwise on the preload knobs. The fork must absorb little to big bumps with ease. This is enough for me when i'm on trails. The more turns the more the fork stiffens. Here's a tip brad: I add 2 full turns when I'm on road. So thats 5 full turns from full negative. Thats what i prefer according to my weight. I tried this fork, used it for more than 1 year, i gave it to my cousin and upgraded to epicon also an SR Suntour. I was thinking of buying another brand like M_ _ _ _ _ _ _ i or the M_ _ _ _ _ u, but dude, i became a big fan of sr suntour. Performance is good, great fork. When you look at it, it is simply designed, looks boring but one thing i can say is this is good perfomance. Sr suntour did a good job on making forks. dehins nahuhuli sa big name brands. Well I'm 5'9" and 200lbs I'm doing 12+ clicks for Road. Maybe for trails I'll drop it to 7-8+
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 7, 2008 22:03:04 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill. With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. Correct, that is why they did not get the real moneys worth-potential of the fork, the real purpose. ( bibili mahal ayaw naman putikan o gamitin ) Unless you have the bucks ( like mythbuster ) to test and test and test something to prove or broke a bike's myth heheheh. I am just curious at the hi-end forks why are they so expensive so I like testing them, luckily never cracked my hi-end forks and even my mid forks, some of them differs only in features and weight, but sturdiness, most of them the same ( unless fork of mall bikes, or toy bikes )
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 7, 2008 22:05:46 GMT 8
With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. by the way am one of those people hehehehehe (With my marzochhi 2003) Maxi, don't worry, you can't destroy your fork in normal and somewhat abnormal circumstances, unless you will destroy it in purpose hahahahah marz 2003 italian made forks are bullet proof!
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mythbuster
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Post by mythbuster on Jan 7, 2008 22:10:38 GMT 8
Very true, agree, agree. Mythbuster could you be my best friend and hand me down pre tested forks. I would love to have those high end forks before i die. Only in my dreams that would be a reality. My wife said to limit my budget to 2.5 k or else we wont eat. Its good there are RST'S, SUNTOURS, ZOOM, GTS. etc. Hahahahh , buy it half the price na lang! jk ;D
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bobby
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Post by bobby on Jan 7, 2008 23:01:28 GMT 8
Heads up man. So the 03 are the classics, I'll keep that in mind.
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Post by kinkyhooter on Jan 8, 2008 8:03:16 GMT 8
Guys, I haven't tried it out yet. But how many clockwise (+) turns have you done with your XCR's?
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john
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Post by john on Jan 8, 2008 8:29:35 GMT 8
Guys, I haven't tried it out yet. But how many clockwise (+) turns have you done with your XCR's? .... honestly i have done alot of turns clockwise and counter but its seems like it has no effect on the xcr, (my wife's rig has for starters). i just don't know if i broke it (adjustment knobs) already. it's a good fork to start with.
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Post by maxbuwaya on Jan 8, 2008 10:03:45 GMT 8
by the way am one of those people hehehehehe (With my marzochhi 2003) Maxi, don't worry, you can't destroy your fork in normal and somewhat abnormal circumstances, unless you will destroy it in purpose hahahahah marz 2003 italian made forks are bullet proof! 03 Zokes. "The last of the Italians"
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Post by kinkyhooter on Jan 8, 2008 14:21:40 GMT 8
Guys, I haven't tried it out yet. But how many clockwise (+) turns have you done with your XCR's? .... honestly i have done alot of turns clockwise and counter but its seems like it has no effect on the xcr, (my wife's rig has for starters). i just don't know if i broke it (adjustment knobs) already. it's a good fork to start with. Maybe you got a busted fork? tsk! With mine, I do feel it stiffening while I turn clockwise (+), I tried it from zero(-) and I feel it playing soft one bumps and when I bake. Baka kelangan lang ng break-in?! ;D
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Post by Patrick on Jan 8, 2008 15:35:32 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill. With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. Correct, that is why they did not get the real moneys worth-potential of the fork, the real purpose. ( bibili mahal ayaw naman putikan o gamitin ) Unless you have the bucks ( like mythbuster ) to test and test and test something to prove or broke a bike's myth heheheh. Fear of breaking the bike is a setback for the progress of the sport hehe Heads up man. So the 03 are the classics, I'll keep that in mind. And old too hehe. People here should sell their 03 forks ... to us hehe
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Post by Patrick on Jan 8, 2008 15:37:15 GMT 8
dang I forgot my on topic comment hehe...
I want to get any review on those triple crown suntour? I saw one at Endless selling for P8t if I remember correctly
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Post by knobbyist on Jan 8, 2008 17:34:27 GMT 8
dang I forgot my on topic comment hehe... I want to get any review on those triple crown suntour? I saw one at Endless selling for P8t if I remember correctly is this the suntour rux? wow they were selling it for P10.5k before and even grantrails at alabang is selling one at 10.5k. thats a considerable price decrease for it. somebody buy one quick and give their review. hehehe!
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john
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Post by john on Jan 9, 2008 10:55:26 GMT 8
.... honestly i have done alot of turns clockwise and counter but its seems like it has no effect on the xcr, (my wife's rig has for starters). i just don't know if i broke it (adjustment knobs) already. it's a good fork to start with. Maybe you got a busted fork? tsk! With mine, I do feel it stiffening while I turn clockwise (+), I tried it from zero(-) and I feel it playing soft one bumps and when I bake. Baka kelangan lang ng break-in?! ;D .... my wife's been using it for the past 3 months, and since we got the fork, its been that way. oh well.... atleast she enjoys riding the bike.
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Post by mtbrider06 on Jan 12, 2008 18:40:26 GMT 8
With Suntour you really dont worry about breaking it because it is quite cheap. Exploring more possibilities and limitations for your skill. With expensive fork, some people I know becomes conservative in trailing, they are holding back their true potential because they might break their expensive fork. i agree a 101% I beg to dis agree ! We used top of the line brands to have better reliability and peace of mind on far away trail. this may be true to some but to me and my group we bought them to be use where they where designed to.
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Post by wendellc on Jan 12, 2008 20:40:37 GMT 8
;D Its psychological bros. Expensive forks are strong while non expensive forks are weak hehehe. Lets wait for the high end forks of sr suntour comes in our country bros. I have this feeling high end sr suntour forks will hit philippine market and make a name in reliable forks.
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olrac
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Post by olrac on Jan 12, 2008 22:35:04 GMT 8
i saw a duro at kings quiapo. i don't bother to ask the price because i'm eyeing the epicon which is out of stock. i found an epicon at johnwilkie at calumpang. price tag is 5k++ which is more expensive than kings but they honor credit card. hehehe
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